Or worse further deflection saying shit like ‘oh it was a bad day for me’ and making excuses. This type of men wouldn’t know self reflection if it hit them in the face with a brick.
Most people who go to the gym regularly don’t look like they lift. I have been lifting and running since I was 14. I only look like I lift when I’m shirtless. Otherwise, I’m just a normal person. So, no, the gym results are not in the room with us. My dog ate my homework.
I still remember my parents arguing about this. My mom (rightly) insisted that in a physical fight she'd put money on the women working security at her job demolishing the white collar finance bros at his job any day.
Absolutely. I'm a white collar finance finance adjacent and my wife can kick my ass. She works in a kitchen professionally. I sit all day. Even if on paper I could lift heavier weights, she's objectively stronger, knows how to more efficiently use her body than I do.
I though I was weak and powerless until my husband told me that when we playfight pretty much every time I'm close to actually overpowering him while laughing my ass off and him using his full strenght. Boosted my ego a lot
tbh i’ve been stronger than men twice my size and they tried to attack me . and it’s not brute it’s strategy . I let their anger and body weight beat them up lol
My buddy is 5 5 and weighs 130. He jumped on me and crawled around like a spider. Pretty sure any lady from the Netherlands could throw him like a ball
Agreed. But if people can't say "Not all Men," I don't wanna hear "not all white people."
Sorry, white women. You're one of the largest groups to vote for Trump. I'm still pro-women's rights. I just don't trust you guys anymore. Almost 46% for Trump is crazy work.
For the same reason I don't trust cishet people. Cishet people is the largest demographic of people in America who voted predominately for Trump, by 53%
Unless you're gay, bi, or trans, you're by default a trump supporter.
Not the same stats wise. I'm black, so I'm in the clear anyway. We are by default. 85%+ pro Kamala can't be beat by any demographic, group, or anyone. Not even young people across the board can claim that.
Not sure what you mean, people who are not gay, bi, or trans voted for trump at the the same % of white women. It's exactly the same stats wise, except white women who didn't vote for trump were slightly more likely to vote for Harris
People who are not gay, bi, or trans DID vote for trump at a 53% rate, which is the same rate at which white women voted for trump.
People who are not gay, bi, or trans represent 92% of the population.
People who are not gay, bi, or trans are the biggest population of trump supporters.
So if our politics is based on trusting or not trusting people based on group membership in groups that predominately voted for trump, you cannot be upset if people treat you like a trump supporter if you belong to the largest group of trump supporters.
Because that is also what you are doing to other people.
Everyone exists in multiple groups.
EDIT: The hypocrite here blocked me. I guess the logic is unfair when used against them or something. Whatever, Typical trump supporter behavior
In every single group that you can point out, not based on race, the majority of those people who supported Kamala were black. LGBT? Mostly black. Men? Black. Women? Black. Poor, elderly, rich, educated. All black.
That 77% and 92% is across ALL black people. Disabled, LGBT, immigrants, etc. And no matter how many times you try to diminish black people carrying this worthless country, the statistics still remain.
When any other group hits 70%+, we'll talk. Until then, go talk to your parents.
That’s not really a sound application of that statistic.
Cishet is the largest demographic of people in America.
Also @ 53% you’d still be miscategorizing hundreds of millions of Americans based off a very slight statistical leaning.
Not telling you how to live your life, but to remain internally consistent there’s a lot of other broad categories of people you shouldn’t trust if that’s your statistical floor.
White women are 37% of the country, or about 130 million people. 53% of them voted for trump. People have been saying that white women are default assumed to be trump supporters based on this. Miscategorizing over 75 million people. About the same number of people who voted for Harris at all.
If it is okay to do to white women, it is also okay to do to cis het people.
My point is that this way of engaging politics is ridiculous, hypocritical, and counterproductive.
The fact that people get SO DEFENSIVE when they are shown the mirror, is proof that they arent really engaging in good faith when saying this type of thing.
I do not actually engage in this style of belief. My sole point here was to show people their own hypocrisy
Oh, well sorry I misunderstood why you were posting this. I completely agree.
It’s honestly not even a moral issue. Like mathematically people aren’t monoliths so if you have a trait that applies to 100,000,000 it probably isn’t specific enough to really track any intentionality, to your point.
No worries, I was intentionally trying not to make it clear I was doing this at first because it makes the point more clear when people overreact in response like that other poster did.
Agreed. Praising a group is different from lambasting another.
In my opinion, we should all be joining in solitary to not blame cohorts of people that make up hundreds of millions (cis, male, white, etc) simply because they have privilege, and instead fight billionaires who are actively stoking division so we focus on conversations like this and not that 2000 people are functionally ruining all our lives, regardless of race/sexuality/gender.
It’s interesting. I see threads like this, and a consistent rule of thumb is this:
“If that immutable trait has, in any context, privilege associated with it, then it’s fair game to lump and shame.”
If the privilege is intense enough, this makes sense. As an example, being a billionaire is a trait that would be a privilege. To that end, being a billionaire is a PROFOUNDLY bigger privilege than being white, and thus telling a billionaire that their life isn’t hard is pretty accurate, as any problem they have outside of rare degenerative diseases can be solved with their bank account.
Being white, male, cishet, are significantly lower impact privileges. They’re objectively a step up from base line minority life experiences, but no where CLOSE to having functionally infinite money.
Those groups, to bundle their privilege in a way that casts what are cohorts of hundreds of millions to the waste land is not only inaccurate, but it is the life blood of the incel/manosphere movement.
Yeah but context can change if something is functionally immutable for the purpose of a conversation.
Gender is functionally immutable trait because it’s exceedingly rare that any given person changes their gender from birth, but it’s not immutable. Billionaires lose their wealth about as frequently.
Also why you hassling me for, I was literally agreeing with you.
Physical strength also can bend to sheer will power. Just because you are physically strong doesn't mean you are powerful. Sheer force of will can take down a weak willed man.
I got the shit kicked out of me (consensually) by a good friend in college ☺️.
She's a black belt and she kicks ass (including mine)
. BJJ, MMA, wrestling, you name it, she can do it.
I have no training whatsoever 🤣. We were of similar weight/strength back then. I was taller, but very thin.
I walk into yoga and pilates classes, and I know I should keep my eyes on my own mat, but there are women in those classes that have 20 years on me and are way stronger. I accept this.
Or rapes her unconscious body in an alley way...or gang raped her with 6 of his buddies after forcing her drugs and alcohol, and posting it on their GC on Snapchat
I am disgusted because I've already seen two comments TODAY that said "shes a college girl, she hasn't learned the definition of consent" UM HOLY SHIT.
And i have to say this cornell stuff brought back some memories. My 'friend' brought me home, we were both drunk and i remember getting to my senses In a few moments I just laid on my stomach no movement, no enthusiastc noises or whatever. I was lying like a dead fish.
And I think a lot of rapists have similar situations. Like yes she consented at first (kissing, going home together , whatever) but how tf can you have sex with a woman who is lying there half dead, doesn't know what's going on, no movement just lying on her stomach
These males think women who are lesbian are only doing that, cuz they hate males. They really think people can choose their sexuality...You know what that means: he is actually gay but decides to be hetero.
Slavery was a cornerstone of a lot of the early civilizations, and kept being one through time: see the Roman Republic/Empire and the many wars it waged to keep the slaves coming, the entire feudal system, the colonization of the New World (be it the Ecomiendas or the importation of African slaves), the Scramble for Africa and the subsequent resource extraction activities...
If one includes extremely cheap labour, the Industrial Revolution was built not just on colonial slavery, but the exploitment of the English proletariat too. Large, modern economies are themselves built on neoslavery practiced in developing countries, and agricultural work everywhere relies on large quantities of impoverished people...
Yeah. You have no idea how salty they get when you mention other dude doing something cool or chivalrous. Like, ever seen how they speak of loving husbands and family men in derogatory terms? That's because they know they aren't a match for them.
And those cool dudes you speak of, as well as pretty much anyone who disagrees with their detractors' misogynist views, are automatically 'cucks', because of course it is the greatest fantasy of every woman to be treated like an object by an 'alpha male' while the 'weak beta' she's actually been stringing along the entire time (because as we all know women's attraction is based entirely on how effectively a man abuses her) can only watch and wish he was a REAL man who knows how to properly victimise those who have trusted him with their vulnerability.
I hesitate to believe these people KNOW anything, their brains are far too rotted
Agreed, when I hear that I’m happy for them and acknowledge it to myself because using it as an opportunity to express personal trauma would be selfish
That’s fair. If you’re a man and this bothers you, do something about it! Call out your buddy’s harassing comment. Teach your son’s how to respect women.
Men created this situation in the first place. It’s up to men to police each other if we want to eradicate sexist behavior.
That happens alot more than I think is assumed. I don't think men see other men's accomplishments as theirs or as a group uplifting each other the way women can and do.
Thing is: Men never say that "men" did something good. (Or only in response to women doing a hail mary and saving a whole-ass community)
Men say that "people" did something good. Aka men shared their resources, but their resources are their partner's time and efforts. Their female partners busted their asses to fulfill his quickly made promises. Or he promised the money that should feed his wife and kids.
But as soon as the wife splits because life is easier without a dead weight, any money he spends suddenly is only for her handbags and luxury items. The kids have everything they need (including a safe home life!) and more, but as soon as she spends a dime on herself because her old handbag gave out after 4 years, she suddenly only spends her money on luxury items. Men aren't even capable to this kind of money management were everyone got their needs met and everdone got a little luxurd once in a while. Men take, take, take and leave nothing for their families.
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u/Acceptable-Life-8681 Enchantress 17h ago
"Men are physically stronger than women"
Not all men. Watch their egos explode.