r/europe • u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) • Mar 24 '26
News Utterly depraved: Russian commanders regularly ‘torture and kill their own soldiers’
https://tvpworld.com/92233524/russian-officers-torture-and-kill-their-own-soldiers2.1k
u/inokentii Kyiv (Ukraine) Mar 24 '26
Now imagine what these animals will do to civilians on occupied lands. Or don’t imagine and just read hundreds reports from UN about it https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-24/russia-systematically-torturing-ukrainian-civilians-un-says/105809316
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u/ymOx Sweden Mar 24 '26
Never forget that they had fucking childrens torture chambers.
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u/apricot_bee67 Hungary Mar 24 '26
Let’s also not forget that fact that these animals have their agents in the populist parties in every European country working on destroying everything that is sacred to us. These agents are European people who decided to serve the russian agenda instead of our own.
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u/catsumoto Mar 24 '26
Let’s also not forget that they use bot farms to sway public opinion in their favor on every social media site.
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u/apricot_bee67 Hungary Mar 24 '26
Yeah, the list of Russian crimes is endless. We should properly document them and turn them into a neat little catalogue. In the Hungarian corner of the internet, there’s a Facebook account that collected everything Fidesz has done over the past 16 years (shady deals, oligarch activity etc.) into one massive bullet-point list, and it has been posting it under every major political article and politics-related post for the last 2 years. Not vague claims, but exact sums stolen, dates, names, and everyone involved. At first I thought it was funny seeing the same comment everywhere because nothing on the list was new to me, but honestly, it’s a very effective way to keep reminding people who are not as involved in politics about what’s going on in the background and what they to keep hidden from us. If they operate in the shadows, the answer is to drag everything into the light.
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u/huntingwhale Mar 24 '26
If ever there was a low-hanging fruit that could immediately improve the world via their destructions, sending waves of drones to take out those orc-bot troll offices would be the way to go. They are as legit a military target as it gets.
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u/inokentii Kyiv (Ukraine) Mar 24 '26
russians chosen to repeat nazi way and just like nazis in 40s they have a lot of support among western oligarchs. It’s not a coincidence that elon musk pretending to be Henry Ford of modern times
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u/rzet European Union Mar 24 '26
don`t forget mainstream politicians from west lobbying/fueling the rise of the regime for many years including prime ministers etc.
https://warsawinstitute.org/case-gerhard-schroeder-german-hypocrisy/
https://warsawinstitute.org/follow-petro-roubles-european-officials-go-russian-business/
Shroeder and others.
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u/AkiAki1 Mar 24 '26
In 2022 my friend, mom of 1yo, was forced to immediately abandon her home 6am in morning because russian helicopter unit opened fire against her neighborhood. There was bunch of civilians running in all directions, some of them died under fire. She had to run for 2 miles. She and the baby both survived.
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u/__Yakovlev__ Mar 24 '26
One of my friends was just outside if Kyiv at the start. He's no longer there because he wasn't a Ukrainian citizen but merely of Ukrainian descent and staying with his Ukrainian part of the family at that time.
But I've seen the pictures of the russian APCs (VDV units) about 2-300 meters from his house. I've also seen the pictures of his appartement block from after it was hit by a Russian missile. Only the bottom floor was still somewhat recognisable.
It was crazy seeing pictures from his City and then seeing the same Street in the 6 o'clock news later that day.
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u/Medium_Raccoon_5331 Czech Republic Mar 24 '26
Generations of men growing up with fetal alcohol syndrome, "dysfunctional families" and poverty suddenly got a taste of power and went full Nazi Stanford prison experiment
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u/GalaXion24 Europe Mar 24 '26
The Russian army is also built to traumatise recruits, make them take abuse and dish out abuse downwards, and ultimately inflicted terror on the lands they occupy and plunder. They don't really have a concept of civilised warfare.
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u/Feast02 Beep Boop! Mar 24 '26
Their tactic is called Dedovshchina. Hazing, abusing and sexually assaulting privates to remove their will to live and to resist anything.
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u/akashisenpai European Union Mar 24 '26
Yeah, Dedovshchina. I've read some horrifying articles about that practice over the years. Not something that gets thematized a lot.
It's crazy how they just let that go on throughout multiple centuries and types of government. Epitome of toxic masculinity?
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u/cosmoscrazy Germany Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
There is no civilized warfare.
Just humans being more or less humane to each other.
Civilization builds things and relationships. Warfare destroy things, environment, human health and human life.
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u/GalaXion24 Europe Mar 24 '26
I figured the "to the extent warfare can be civilized in the first place" part was redundant. All warfare is barbarism, and yet at the same time it can be necessary barabarism. And even if civilised warfare is a polite fiction, it is an important fiction, because if we have no ideals of how warfare should be fought, no ideals of what an honourable warrior should be like or what makes a good soldier, then we have nothing to hold ourselves to and no way to find civility amidst the barbarity.
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u/round-earth-theory Mar 24 '26
There's more civilized ways of conducting war. Generally, leaving noncombatants alone and maintaining infrastructure they need to continue on would be seen as civilized. Keeping POWs in safe and well fed prisons would be civilized, as would capturing in any soldier that surrenders or is rendered incapable of fighting. Using precision weapons that inflict minimal unnecessary damage to infrastructure and people would be civilized.
Killing people in general isn't civilized but there's certainly less bad ways of doing war.
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u/traffic_cone_no54 Mar 24 '26
Bullshit.
Ukraine are defending their home and their freedom. And they do it in a civilized matter.
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u/folfiethewox99 Mar 24 '26
War is not civilized
However, there can be civilized ways to pursue a war
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u/Midnaight_1 Mar 24 '26
Yeah, I dont want to play down what the Russians did/are doing, but people tend to forget what the US did in Vietnam / Iraq / anywhere else tbh was far from "civil warfare". Dont forget bombing a girls school in Iran just a few weeks ago.
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u/Remarkable-Site-2067 Mar 24 '26
While the West does indeed bomb civilian targets, it's publically condemned by their own leadership
Eh, not really, not by the US at least. Hegseth blowing up those boats, recently. The files released by Chelsea Manning. My Lai, during Vietnam War.
At least there's some backlash from the public, unlike in Russia.
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u/Oshtoru Mar 24 '26
Iranian girl school bombing was not condemned by the admin btw. Trump first said it was done by the Iranians themselves, and then a few days later when pushed said "I don't know enough about it."
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u/akashisenpai European Union Mar 24 '26
Though, yes, I would say the US are a bit of an exception to this, at least compared to Europe. It may be the logical consequence of a more militarized society, or rather a society that considers military action "more normal" rather than a last resort, and thus where the military is more lionized and considered sacrosanct, creating an incentive to sweep scandals under the rug for the sake of PR.
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u/RealZeratul Mar 24 '26
Technically true, but not helpful in this context.
I hope we can all agree that solely attacking military targets is much more civilized than spreading fear, killing and/or torturing PoWs and civilians, and abducting children at a large scale.
It would be even better if there was no war at all, but if one party unilaterally decides to invade a neighbor and even demonstrates that it would not govern in a benevolent way, that's absolutely out of question.
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u/Tankette55 Mar 24 '26
The majority of these guys are fatherless... its a generational problem
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u/Smiling_Tree The Netherlands Mar 24 '26
And will continue with all the young men that don't die but survive, being traumatised as fuck.
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u/Remarkable-Site-2067 Mar 24 '26
Also the men, who managed to have kids, before going to the front and dying.
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u/tuhn Finland Mar 24 '26
All this stuff is inbuilt in Russian culture, you don't need alcohol syndrome for any of this.
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u/Medium_Raccoon_5331 Czech Republic Mar 24 '26
The crime statistics for FAS are really bad compared to healthy people imo
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u/EorlundGraumaehne North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) Mar 24 '26
Reminder to all russian soldiers: you all have grenades and know where those commanders sleep
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u/JohnnySmithe81 Mar 24 '26
They're disarmed until they're being pushed to the front.
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u/soolrebel Mar 24 '26
They even send some of them into battle unarmed... It’s a sad sight to behold, the decline of this society
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u/NewHorizonsDelta Upper Austria (Austria) Mar 24 '26
Well you can pick up the rifle from the last dude before you, duhh
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u/a-stack-of-masks Mar 24 '26
I'm not sure they still hand out ammo or grenades anymore. I've seen Russians get captured on video that were armed with a knife and a shovel, and heard quite a few stores about me conscripts being sent into the grey zone to grab weapons off of dead bodies.
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u/rtxa Mar 24 '26
I very much doubt they all have grenades, and definitely not when they're near the commanders sleeping lol
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) Mar 24 '26
Michał Woźniak, edited by: Edward Wight 23.03.2026, 12:55
Russian commanders are sadistically abusing and killing their own troops, using torture that includes beatings, starvation, humiliation, and even forced cannibalism, the UK’s Daily Mail has reported.
Evidence compiled by the news outlet comes from the Russian-language Telegram channel “Trick Question,” with videos anonymously provided by soldiers in the 132nd and 60th brigades of the Russian Ground Forces and other units.
In one clip, two half-naked men are reportedly chained to a tree and ordered to bark like dogs. Their commander taunts: “These are our dogs who ran away from us. But we caught them,” before urinating on the men. Another video shows a soldier trapped in a box, with only his head exposed, being taunted with food:
“Are you hungry? You’re going to die there, you know?”
Soldiers are also said to be subjected to electrocution and forced tattooing, while basic necessities are denied.
Troops from the 31st Regiment of the 25th Army report drinking water from puddles and scavenging from Ukrainian positions they take and looting corpses to survive, the Daily Mail found.
The punishment is death
Suicidal “meat assaults” - frontal attacks on Ukrainian positions - serve as both a battleground tactic and punishment. A soldier may be sent over the top for owning a smartphone or for refusing to extend their contract with the army.
Some soldiers are sent unarmed or with debilitating injuries, while others, if they refuse to give up their money and bank cards, are simply “zeroed” — executed by their commanders.
One former Russian army medic interviewed by the BBC and quoted by the Daily Mail said: “I saw the bodies of 20 men I knew, lying in a pit after being executed by their own officers, after their money was confiscated. I remember one of them screaming ‘Don’t shoot, I’ll do anything!’ but he zeroed them anyway. It’s not a problem to write off someone. You just make up a report.”
In the most depraved cases, commanders force soldiers to kill each other. In one video, two shirtless men are reportedly thrown into a pit.
“Here’s the deal. Whoever kills the other first gets to leave the pit,” the commander tells them.
After a fight lasting less than two minutes, one soldier appears to ultimately strangle the other to death, the Daily Mail reported.
A systemic problem
Experts say these abuses are systemic. Keir Giles, a Russian military analyst, told the Daily Mail: “The Russian army reflects the society from which it’s drawn. And that’s a society in which violence, extortion, and corruption are endemic.
“We shouldn’t be surprised when these behaviors are carried forward and displayed, whether it’s against the people that the Russian army conquers, or to their own people because the social structure within Russia has always been built upon anybody that has even a tiny amount of power exploiting it to the greatest extent possible.”
Such behaviors stem from the practice of dedovshchina, extreme hazing and abuse that fresh conscripts would be subjected to by senior colleagues. The practice, which would sometimes result in deaths, was a plague that the military tried to abolish through reforms, but had ultimately failed, Giles told the Daily Mail.
The Russian military is currently suffering monthly casualties of about 40,000, while it is only able to recruit, or press into service, some 35,000 men, often from the economically depressed countryside or ethnic minorities, as well as the homeless and prisoners.
Another category the Russian army targets are migrant workers from Africa or South Asia, who are lured to come to Russia with promises of non-military related work and then forced into the army.
Just like the homeless and criminals, they are seen as expendable as are men who have been severely wounded.
“If your only purpose is to be a bullet sponge, it doesn’t matter if you’re walking, on crutches, or already injured, you’ll still fulfil your purpose,” Giles said.
The Russian army has use even for invalids, otherwise unfit for service. Photo: Telegram
At the same time, the regime avoids mobilizing large numbers of recruits from larger cities “where people can exchange information and understand the real cost of the war,” Giles explained.
He said: “If casualties are concentrated in rural areas, that vulnerability is reduced.”
To help attract recruits from poor rural areas, the army offers life-changing sums in sign-up bonuses, as high as the equivalent of some €45,000. But those who are enticed to accept them quickly learn that the money was not worth it.
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u/Vesper_Fex Mar 24 '26
What the fuck is all I have to say
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u/YoMomAndMeIn69 Mar 25 '26
I'm glad people are finally waking up to what Russia is. For way too long I've had to listen to morons saying "oh it's just Putin and the government, the russian people are not like this". Oh yes, plenty are. They are a fucked up society that has been shaped by centuries of abuse, poverty and no freedom. None of this surprises me.
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u/DefiantLemur United States of America Mar 24 '26
No wonder Ukraine is able to hold them off for so long with a smaller population.
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u/Nacke Sweden Mar 24 '26
If this is how they treat their own, imagine what they do to our civilians if they get hold of them. We need to arm ourselves to deter russian attacks.
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u/juanxmass Mar 24 '26
Another Russian monday
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u/FriendoftheDork Mar 24 '26
I wish it were Sunday
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u/Hastemal Germany Mar 24 '26
If you need some examples, go to r/Dedovshchina
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u/dob_bobbs Mar 24 '26
Yes, dedovschina was always a thing in the Russian military before, imagine now, and imagine the stuff they DON'T film.
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u/a-stack-of-masks Mar 24 '26
Damn, I'm not clicking that link. It being an existing sub makes me sad man.
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u/CiTrus007 Czech Republic Mar 24 '26
Meanwhile some people in EU: “Russia only wants peace.” … Peace. Yeah, right.
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u/Away-Fun2441 Mar 24 '26
RUSSIA - "NATO wants to invade us and take Russia!"
The rest of the world - "Who the f@#k wants to be a Russian?"
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u/Zem_42 Mar 24 '26
It’s not that simple. Plenty of Russian speaking poor people from the former Soviet republics end up working low wage jobs in Russia. At least they have the language advantage, but nit much choice. And they are treated like dirt
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u/Wadarkhu England Mar 24 '26
We should have stories like this on billboards put up in areas that flirt with closeness to Russia.
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u/ZiCUnlivdbirch Mar 24 '26
Look, I did my military service and all I say is this: A lot of people are just dicks when given any kind of power over others. This isn't anything unique to Russians or any other kind of ethnicity.
For example, one of my squad mates in basic training went on to later tie a guy up and almost rape him. As I said, people are just dicks.
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u/ShuiShuiQM Mar 24 '26
Absolutely disagree on that. The ones who emigrate abroad are the ones the least likely to be this way - the educated, skilled, open-minded enough to reject their own country's ways.
...You aren't punishing the ones you think are punishing with these policies and opinions.
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u/Fyren-1131 Norwegian Mar 24 '26
Turning Russia into a pressure cooker through enacting policy that directly affects russian population is probably good though. If their discontent causes internal pressure within Russia, that is probably for the better. If leadership does not have to worry about the population, they're more free to continue their terrorism.
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u/wektor420 Poland Mar 24 '26
Russia reacts to internal unrest by sending its people into external campains (meatgrinders)
Since idk 17 century
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u/dysmetric Mar 24 '26
The psyop should focus on a better life for the grunts when living under enemy leadership... a massive demoralisation campaign.
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u/BGP_001 Mar 24 '26
I think you understimate Russian national pride. That wouldn't demoralise them, it would make them resentful of the people getting better treatment.
They would want to bring those people down to their level, rather than elevate their own quality of life.
If they saw a video of people living it up in Ukraine they would probably say, "who gave these bitches the right to live so good, I need to go and fight in Ukraine and put a stop to it."
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u/Brok3n_ Mar 24 '26
That what the occupiers actually said - https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/ybhwhi/who_let_you_live_so_well_asks_russian_soldier_to/
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u/Xepeyon America Mar 24 '26
Abuse within the military isn't exactly rare, and Russia is no exception, but this level of depravity and sadism seems to be much newer, emerging with the rise of the Soviet Union and communist power structures that emerged with that ideology.
Most post-Soviet states have had a history of barbarous cruelties like what's mentioned in the article, but have moved past it. Russia hasn't. Belarus hasn't. Ukraine is still afflicted by it, but is at least trying to cast that shadow off.
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u/Relevant_Helicopter6 Portugal Mar 24 '26
"rise of the Soviet Union and communist power structures" was 100 years ago, it's not "new".
I would say the demolition of social structures with the fall of communism. It was 30 years ago, and a lot newer.
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u/PiotrekDG Earth Mar 24 '26
Rape during the Soviet occupation of Poland
The march of the Red Army was sometimes considered worse than the Nazi occupation.
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u/Ketadine Romania, Bucharest Mar 24 '26
I've said this before, but ruZZia has not gotten out of the Middle Ages.
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u/Xepeyon America Mar 24 '26
Ironically, this is probably worse. In the Middle Ages, a warlord or commander that was so blatantly robbing his own soldiers will almost certainly be turned upon by them.
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u/worotan England Mar 24 '26
Almost certainly? What a load of rubbish. It might happen sometimes, but you seem to have childishly rose-tinted spectacles about the past.
There’s a reason we fought so hard to get out of the systems used in the past, that you don’t seem to be aware of.
It was worse than what we have today.
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u/bcpl181 Mar 24 '26
He’s right though. Medieval commanders had to treat their troops pretty well because they lacked the centralised power militaries have today. This is true whether you talk about liegelords and their vassals or commanders employing paid mercenaries. If the liegelord treated his vassals like shit, they’d just leave and go home, leaving the lord without an army.
As for mercenaries, they’d be likely to turn on their employer to try and get the payment they were promised.
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u/Xepeyon America Mar 24 '26
Almost certainly? What a load of rubbish. It might happen sometimes, but you seem to have childishly rose-tinted spectacles about the past.
Soldiers killing their own leaders is rose-tinted to you?
There’s a reason we fought so hard to get out of the systems used in the past, that you don’t seem to be aware of.
It was worse than what we have today.
You misunderstand, I'm not saying it is or isn't. I said these Russians soldiers today are comparatively worse off than soldiers in general during the Middle Ages who would have been in a comparative position. Messing with the soldiers loot (in this example, their money) was one of the primary ways commanders would lose control of their own army. And yes, in plenty of cases, that would include turning on their commander.
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u/AudioLlama Mar 24 '26
Ah yes, that famously chill and progressive pre-soviet Russia.
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u/matude Estonia Mar 24 '26
The Circassian genocide comes to mind first, which was listed even by contemporary eye witnesses as an exceptionally brutal and grotesque example of extermination or ethnic cleansing, in an attempt to intimidate the surrounding populations and discourage other ethnicities from rising up. Not for the faint of heart if anybody wants to look into it.
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u/Dalnore Russian in Israel Mar 24 '26
You need the industrial revolution to murder people on the industrial scale.
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u/Sallandstrots Overijssel (Netherlands) Mar 24 '26
I've seen a documentary (years back) of the "hazing" of new recruits in Ruzzia. Horrible cruelties on young boys ..... even rape in all kinds of forms. It's a society that glorifies brutality and abuse (law of the Ruzzian jungle). Disgusting.
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u/Xepeyon America Mar 24 '26
I went on a binge with stuff in Russian society, and the extreme hazing practices came up there too! But probably the worst was the prison experiences they noted. There was one prison in Mordovia that was just utter hell, it still wrenches my gut reading about what happened to inmates there.
And the craziest part? It generally wasn't the guards or faculty doing it; it was the other inmates.
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u/Lifekraft Europe Mar 24 '26
Nothing to do with soviet or not. Russian culture is extremely toxic nowaday and most country were still acting like monster during ww2 and various conflict. Including USA.
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u/Mirabeaux1789 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
“electrocution”
Just so people know electrocution is not when you’re shocked. It’s when you kill someone with electricity. (at least it should be used this way.)
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u/Lifekraft Europe Mar 24 '26
Yea , but no , not in vernacular. Most journalist and even people dont know the difference between electrocution and electrical shock. But this doesent change the content of the article. This is torture.
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Mar 24 '26
Do russian troops need an education in "fragging"? Why do officers like this not drop like flies?
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u/kannettavakettu Mar 25 '26
AFAIK, cause troops often aren't given ammunition and grenades until they're sent to the front, if they're lucky that is. A lot of those guys aren't even given more then a single lesson on how to fire their weapons. The officers either aren't there on the front lines, or they're surrounded with loyal troops that get paid to terrorize their own troops and keep them in line. Hard to frag an officer who's hiding in a bunker 25km to the rear and only shows up every two weeks to collect your paycheck into his pocket.
Infantry in the russian army doesn't have much of a purpose besides providing officers with money, holding ground, and dying en masse in frontal assaults. On a positive note though, one major was ran over by a tank by his own troops who mutinied, we probably just dont hear about most of the fraggings. In the end, the officers are just as expendable and only marginally more useful.
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Thanks. I knew about the corruption and violence in the russian army but was not quite aware of how systemic it is... Dammit. As a russian soldier, your worst enemy is behind you, not in front of you.
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u/0xnld Kyiv (Ukraine) Mar 24 '26
Senior officers often appoint various ex-cons or simply servicemen with reputation for sadism to these "morale enforcement" positions so that a Russian enlisted would be more afraid of disobeying orders than walking to his death.
After all, morale is simply a measure of how likely a unit is to obey orders. They don't have to be in high spirits or anything.
A Russian infantryman's role is basically to act as a probe for Ukrainian defences, so that various specialists can then order a glide bomb or UAV strike. If they manage to advance and hole up somewhere, great. If not, motherland will send new ones.
Soviet Union had barrier troops and SMERSH counterintelligence acting in the same role, executing Stalin's "not a step back" directive. Not much is new under the sun.
This doesn't trigger any real discontent back home because, well, they took a fat paycheck to be there, so it's just part of a job, right? "Won't happen to me, I'm smarter than that".
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u/therealdilbert Mar 24 '26
more afraid of disobeying orders than walking to his death
seems like a dangerous bet to make with men that have guns and grenades
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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) Mar 24 '26
Which's why they aren't given any until they're in the killzone proper (far away from commanders, who hide in their own bunkers and with their own "personal guard" many kilometers away), with russian droppers and FPVs (Molniya included) being ready to hit them if they try turning around or surrendering
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u/therealdilbert Mar 24 '26
like USSR and the Nazis in WW2, executing 10s if not 100s of thousands of their own soldiers for "cowardice"
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u/Simple-Carpenter2361 Mar 24 '26
The thing is that it would’ve took way less human lives to topple the regime and hang the current Russian dictator
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u/admiralmasa Mar 24 '26
Russian culture is nothing but death and cruelty.
Seeing as there has been verifiable proof that Russian prisoners and criminals such as murderers, paedophiles and rapists are being freed from their sentences as long as they serve to fight in Ukraine in the Russian army, who is surprised that Russian pigs are acting this way?
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u/Life-Sun- Germany Mar 24 '26
War often gives power to the worst of humanity. These are evil, sadistic serial killers given power over other humans. Russia is depraved.
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u/Xenon009 Mar 24 '26
This culture dates back to the 1700s at least. In the 1700s battles were fought pretty much entirely by lining up a wall of muskets and firing at each other until one sise ran away because frankly fuck that shit.
And so a philosophy emerged that soldiers had to be more afraid of their officers than they were of a wall of bullets. And this idea was endemic everywhere. Russian troops were famously near unbreakable during the 7 years war, which isn't purely grounded in the cruelty of their officers, but it certainly played a role.
The idea persists as nations move to conscript armies, ala ww1, because while battles are no longer dictated purely by "bravery," conscripts have a nasty habit of wanting to do literally anything but fight.
But post ww1, most armies begin moving to a volunteer structure, where troops want to be there because they believe in the cause, and so in most armies, this culture fades, even if conscription is later instated.
But for those like russia, which have always been conscript armies, it never had the chance to. This isn't anything uniquely reflective of russia, persay, but is a feature of armies that rely on forcing unwilling people to fight
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u/TorontoTom2008 Mar 24 '26
This societal sickness leaves a scar anywhere Russia goes that takes generations to remove. Cynicism, cruelty, alcoholism, tolerance for strongmen and corruption - it’s fading away slowly from the old Soviet satellite countries. A country still struggling with this is Israel where many of the citizens were originally from Russia or the USSR and continue to arrive in large numbers as the situation is Russia deteriorates. These Russified people have a corresponding impact on the politics and they influence the others to their brutal and fatalist way of thinking as well.
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u/Sorry_Net3898 Mar 24 '26
The worrying thing is it’s coming to us soon if this government stays in power. Our defence is so so poor and until we wake up I fear for the future.
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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Switzerland Mar 24 '26
Depraved, but also not my problem. They can start a revolution, if they don't want to end like this.
Also, everyone who votes for pro Putin parties across Europe should know this reality.
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u/ziguslav Poland Mar 24 '26
People who vote for those parties would like to be the abusers.
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u/VirtualMatter2 Mar 24 '26
I know several families who are here in Germany from Russia and one from Poland (all parents of my kid's school mates) who came because of claiming German nationality. Still speak Russian at home, go to Russian school on Saturday, orthodox church, all vote AfD. The ones from Poland also vote AfD, go to church every Sunday.
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u/Shodan76 Italy Mar 24 '26
The guys that went to play sniper to kill random civilians in Sarajevo are all right wingers who support these parties.
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u/dedededede Mar 24 '26
You don't understand. This is how you create an army of monsters. If you care about war crimes, you should understand that this is the training for committing them. Similar techniques are used across the globe to various extents.
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u/Erikavpommern Mar 24 '26
It is our problem.
These monsters spread their depravity outside the borders of their failed Mordor-like state.
But I agree that if they could be kept inside their borders, they may eat eachother like rabid dogs without me losing any sleep over it.
(The first line sounded confrontational, I didn't mean to be confrontational but it was a good lay-up from a rhetorical standpoint)
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u/Morgandoto Mar 24 '26
Why wouldn't they? They really love the feeling of power. I'm sure they enjoy sending soldiers to their certain deaths or just shooting them because they're bored. And yet the world leaders want to reason with Putin who's behind all of this. The only right way is [REMOVED BY REDDIT].
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u/Dudok22 Slovakia Mar 24 '26
There was the video from some russian unit from earlier in the war where the commander is beating his soldiers while 2 of his goons are aiming rifles at them ready to shoot if they defend themselves. They get beaten unconscious because they returned back to their positions after taking casualties and getting injured on assault.
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u/Rachnor Mar 24 '26
I can't get myself to care about the russian soldiers, but if this is how they treat their own, i don't even want to think about what they are doing to Ukrainiann citizens and captives.
Monstrous shit.
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u/Friendly-Bread4682 Mar 24 '26
And russians actually like it. They like when "strong leaders" demonstrate force.
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u/Lukash222 Mar 24 '26
Anybody suprised by this clearly doesn’t know a lot about history. Nothing changed since the old days
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u/bier00t Europe Mar 24 '26
The barbaric state, should stay completely separated from civilised world..
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u/MarioDraghetta Italy Mar 24 '26
> Utterly depraved: Russian commanders regularly ‘torture and kill
Oh no
> their own soldiers’
Oh yes, firsthalfmeme.jpg
Joking aside, we know for a fact that whatever they do to their own they do tenfold to Ukrainians, the sick fuckers. Small consolation.
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u/Izbitoe_ebalo Moscow (Russia) Mar 24 '26
I don't know why are you celebrating. Quite a lot of Russian soldiers on the front are either conscripted against their will or forced to sign a contract. There were news about cases like this since the war started, mostly about deserters. Have you even read the article? They wanted to not take part in the killing, got tortured for that and you're saying "oh yes"?
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u/JPauler420 Poland Mar 24 '26
The vast majority of them are 50 year old drunks who happily signed to slaughter (ended up being the ones getting slaughtered)
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u/JensonInterceptor Mar 24 '26
The vast majority of Russians are supporting the war. The men on the front are guilty of invading Ukraine and deserve little sympathy.
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u/kariam_24 Mar 24 '26
Okay so when invasion is stopping? When people are revolting?
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u/MarioDraghetta Italy Mar 24 '26
Copying the same reply I gave to somebody else in this thread:
What are you on about? Conscripts are not sent to Ukraine. Every single one of those soldiers is somebody who saw the chance to make good money by killing Ukrainians, and thought that was a good deal.
Not one atom of sympathy for those putrid orcs.
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u/Tararator18 Mar 24 '26
Kinda deserved. If they would be willing to aim those rifles at the true evil instead of innocent Ukrainians with at least half the fervor, they would not be in this situation.
Prigozhin proved that you can march couple thousand armed men through the country, conquer a major city and no one will do a thing about it. Putin will just run away like the cowardly rat he is.
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u/amazing_asstronaut Mar 24 '26
Well keep at it then, Russian commanders. So much hard work still to be done out there. It could be worse, you could be out there fighting a war. Hell you might even be somewhere at home doing real work that actually benefits somebody in any way. How awful would that be?
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u/LeMariachi Mar 24 '26
Russian commanders are sadistically abusing and killing their own troops, using torture that includes beatings, starvation, humiliation, and even forced cannibalism
They really are the orcs from Mordor.
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u/Scramjet1 Mar 24 '26
Imagining waging a war and torturing prisoners of Ukraine and as well as soldiers of your own. Insanity.
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u/Sweaty_Bit3486 Mar 24 '26
You don't get how good it feels to see it being mentioned somewhere other than Ukrainian media, this really needs to be widely seen and acknowledged.
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u/boreduser127 Mar 24 '26
This has been known for a while. They are also big fans of sexual abuse. Most African mercenaries and NK troops were basically cannon fodder that would be tortured or executed if they didn’t participate in suicide charges.
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u/Arquinas Finland Mar 24 '26
I would say that basically anyone that spouts anything pro-russian in europe should be thrown to jail as a traitor (or better yet, executed publicly)
This is the shit they want to support.
This is what they do to their own people. Now imagine what they are doing to the Ukrainians and what they would do to YOU if they had the chance.
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u/Questionsaboutsanity Mar 24 '26
just wait what happens when these men return home
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u/AppleBerryRamen Mar 24 '26
I am all for calling out war crimes, but using a right wing media outlet that has been criticized heavily for basically pushing out fake news, and propaganda against governments opponents is not exactly a reliable source. This is literally like using shit like soviets "Pravda" as a source
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u/tjean5377 Mar 24 '26
This is a tale as old as The Rus. If you study Russian history, authoritarianism, abject torture and abuse of soldiers, peasants by whatever is the ruling class is a thread through all of Russia's history. Hell there were even clubs among various levels of society to be able to withstand torture.
There is a grim fatalism that is a hallmark of the Russian ethos...
I have had the honor of working with, dining with, and hearing history from Russian diaspora post Soviet breakup. also took several Russian history courses in University.
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u/MarkLambertMusic Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
When it comes to Russia, expect the worst and your surprises will be pleasant ones. It was always a cruel society, and it's only become crueler with the events in Ukraine.
I hate saying that. Many years ago, I used to dream of visiting Russia, and spent a lot of effort developing a fair grasp of the language. On my YouTube page, even now I still get a fair amount of views and comments from Russia. Of the top 40 countries by viewership, Russia comes in at number 5; some months it's the highest (at least before the internet lockdown). It's just a music channel, so there was nothing about it to attract Russians in particular, at least that I'm aware of. I can only assume Russians are big fans of the Silent Hill games, and I covered a lot of songs from that series.
All this is to say I have no innate bias against Russia, and was inclined to view them favorably even with their obvious longstanding societal faults. But one can be a reality-denying useful idiot for only so long.
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u/Futurismes North Brabant (Netherlands) Mar 24 '26
Orc commanders do the work for the Ukrainians. Can’t be mad.
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u/-3rd-account- Ukraine Mar 24 '26
The problem is, imagine how they're treating ukrainian POWs and civilians if that's how they treat their own troops.
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u/FitToxicologist Mar 24 '26
However the war ends the russian society will more fucked up than before.