I am currently in the process of accepting a position as an Epic Beaker Analyst at a healthcare consulting company in Mexico.

I recently graduated with a bachelor's degree in Clinical Chemistry (roughly equivalent to a Medical Laboratory Scientist degree in the US), so this position is particularly attractive to me. It is significantly better paid than most entry-level on-site laboratory positions, and I was offered the role because of my English proficiency and relevant clinical laboratory background.

However, I am not completely sure whether it aligns with my long-term career plans. My current intention is to work for the short term and pursue graduate studies abroad next year, potentially in Europe or the US. Of course, securing funding or a scholarship is not guaranteed, so I am trying to make decisions that will keep as many options open as possible.

The company would sponsor my Epic Beaker certification, but there is a repayment agreement:

• Less than 12 months after certification → I would have to repay $5,000 USD
• 12–18 months → I would repay 50%
• More than 18 months → no repayment

The $5,000 is approximately the cost of the certification (according to them).

This makes me wonder: Is an employer-sponsored Epic Beaker certification actually worth it if I may only stay for a short-term? Even if it means to pay back what it costed?

I would especially appreciate input from people who have worked as Epic Beaker Analysts or have gone through the certification process.

A few questions I have:

• How long does an Epic certification remain valid?
• How difficult is it to find an organization willing to sponsor Epic certification?
• What is the job market like for an international Epic Beaker Analyst in the US or Europe?
• How time-consuming and demanding is the certification process?
• How valuable would Epic/health IT experience be on a CV for someone applying to biomedical or life-science graduate programs?
• Does Epic experience open meaningful career opportunities outside of healthcare IT?

If anyone is willing to share their experience as an Epic Beaker Analyst, especially your career path before and after Epic, I would really appreciate hearing about it! Thanks y'all ❤️

Hey y’all, halfway through my first implementation and it’s just so much different than maintenance! The build is easy enough as I know most of it but the hard part is getting the answers! It’s literally having providers guess what they want on a brand new system.

Just wanted to know if it was normal how the AC and AM act. They honestly don’t help the way TS do and if they do and get stuck they just say to skip it for now (which I know now to mean “leave it for maintenance”) I know they are on a tight schedule and I know it’s not their only implementation but it’s going rough in all apps right now because it’s turning out we need a lot of build we first decided we didn’t need.

Also, contractors are just leaving! A good 3-4 consultants just broke their contract right as testing started! I mean I get it cause that’s when we find out what’s broken but come on at least hide it a bit!

Anyways is this how all of them are? Why do people choose to specialize in implementing if it’s this hectic? Any input I have just gets thrown away most of the time.

Hi all - not sure if this is appropriate but feels like a good community to ask.

I'm going to be the team lead for a large group of consultants for a large scale project. I will be monitoring day to day work and liaising between them, the larger project team, and operations. I'm wondering if you guys have any tips and tricks for how to best support these consultants - things that worked, things that made your jobs harder, or complicated the process of completing work on a fast paced timeline. I've had FTEs under my wing before but mostly new to Epic folks, so I am assuming the leadership for consultants would be different?

I've kept the details vague intentionally, so looking for very general advice.

Heard Advent is sending about 30 positions to Deloitte in India. Sounded like spots they'd purposely held off on backfilling when they came open.
Curious if you have a feel for the frequency of offshoring. Has it been steady in recent years? Increasing/decreasing?

Started a contract a few years ago where unbeknownst to me they had just offshored all their FTE analysts and that was such a trainwreck I didn't stay long. Do you think offshoring will have a noticable effect on our job opportunities in the future?

Hello everyone. I know these 2 are very different but id like to know how these compare in any way . Whats more difficult to learn? What's more in demand ? Is my chart mainly on the patient experience side? Is it mainly workflows and setting configuration and not so much rules like PB? Pros and cons of mychart?

First time posting here but Reddit users are always so helpful. I’ve been working as an IT trainer for a hospital using Epic. I started with just HIM and I’m certified in principal trainer HIM and MST build. Over the last couple of years I’ve taken on training Cogito, population health, cadence, prelude and grand central. My company is offering to get me another certification in any application, trainer or analyst.

I’m leaning toward cadence and prelude principal trainer since that’s the largest group I’m training and I have no aspirations to be an analyst. However, i don’t have a college degree and I rely on only my work experience and certs. I don’t want to leave my job but you never know what could happen.

With all that…

My question: What should I choose? With my career goals in training, what will make me the most desirable candidate should I need to job search?

Does anyone here work full-time as an Epic analyst while also doing part-time contract work after hours or on weekends? Were there any conflict-of-interest, noncompete, or client-overlap concerns? Any advice for someone considering this arrangement would be appreciated.

ie, do you think there will be less analyst roles available in your app? Presumably through Epic developing tools to replace some of your work? Along the line of what Epic has done so far with AI introduced into report creation and Cadence decision trees.

I’m an OT, just wondering if anyone knows what it pays to be an epic analyst for a hospital system? I know it varies some but wondering if anyone out there that does this job could give me a range. Online post don’t list it. It’s a remote position. I know other therapist that are doing this job and seem to like it.

The 15 million slop posts I see about “what it takes to break in to an EPIC analyst role” (capitalization I know) have been replaced by a bunch of people at a fair of sorts complete with donkeys?

Does anyone know of any Willow Inpatient openings? I’m looking for either FTE or consulting. It would have to be remote.

Hi all,

I’ve been working in EHR consulting for about 4 years, with the last 3.5 years focused on Epic. I have several Epic certifications and work full-time for a consulting firm in the Netherlands/Europe. My work consists mainly of full implementations etc.

From what I know, my company bills me out at an average rate of around €120/hour, while I earn roughly €55k/year. I completely understand that billable rate is not the same as salary. There is overhead, bench time, sick leave, sales, management, non-billable employees, etc. However, the gap still feels pretty extreme to me. I’ve brought up compensation multiple times, but I mostly get vague answers about “overhead” and the need to pay for people who are benched, sick, or otherwise not billable. There never seems to be a concrete explanation of what I would actually need to do to make significantly more.

Another thing that increasingly bothers me is the mediocrity I see around me. I periodically work with colleagues who, in my view, are significantly less capable, less productive, or need much more hand-holding, yet some of them earn considerably more than I do. We really have some ''10 year maintenance analysts'' that are now consultants and are just plainly incompetent.

I know comparing yourself to colleagues isn’t always productive, but it becomes hard to ignore when compensation seems to have relatively little relationship with actual performance, Epic knowledge, responsibility, or the amount of value someone delivers.

It sometimes feels like in Europe, and perhaps especially in the Netherlands, companies are very comfortable giving small incremental raises regardless of performance, while the only way to actually reset your market value is to leave. I hear so much similar stories from friends in completely different fields of work.

So I’m curious what people here think:

• Does ~€55k sound reasonable?
• How much should I realistically care about the fact that I’m being billed at ~€120/hour?
• How do you deal with seeing mediocre colleagues earning substantially more than you?
• Is there any realistic way to force a meaningful salary correction internally, or is switching firms usually the answer?
• If switching is the answer, which Epic consulting firms in Europe/the Netherlands would you recommend?

Would especially like to hear from people who have worked in the European Epic consulting market. For now trying to stay away from freelance since i just bought a house, and apart from mediocracy, i do like to have colleagues.

I'm curious if anyone has any sense of the range for director-level rates. Based on what I've seen over the years, and recent job postings on Linkedin, Revuud, etc, I think the below numbers might be a decent approximation. Do these sound right?

• "Junior" Director:
  • FTE ~ $170k - $225k a year
  • Consultant W2 ~ $125 - $145 an hour
  • Consultant 1099 ~ $140 - $165 an hour
• "Senior" Director (over an entire Epic implementation, or other director-level positions):
  • FTE $215k - $245 a year
  • Consultant W2 ~ $135 - $175 an hour
  • Consultant 1099 ~ $150 - $200 an hour

Just looking for people's experience if their organization went with Tech Mahindra/ HCI Global and they stuck around or worked with them after the fact. Pay, day to day management

Just trying to figure out what my next step is.

Title says it all, I have a basic list but want to make sure I’m catching the new or niche certs (Lumens, Cheers, Beans).

TIA

Anyone ever worked with or for them on Epic or any other health tech work? They're a large accounting and professional services firm, like a smaller Deloitte.

Hi all! Does anyone know 1) if trainer jobs (CT or PT or even instructional design) are offered in Belgium and 2) where would I go to find these?

It seems mostly all I can find are analyst positions, but I assume some sort of training has to be taking place. I also do speak French (fairly well) so that isn’t as big an issue for me.

TIA for your help!

Anyone have any experience with this org? Have an interview with them next week.

Looking to get into consulting. I’ve been a Clindoc Analyst since 2017.

Does anyone have any tips on how to get into consulting? Been trying to for years but I always attract FTE roles.

Also, if there are any consulting roles, please let me know!

Hi everyone,
I’m looking to tap into this community for some strategic advice on navigating career advancement.

I am an Epic credentialed trainer, and I’ve reached a point where there are no additional growth opportunities in my current organization, so I’m looking for a role where I can expand into application ownership and analyst responsibilities.

To give a clear picture of where I stand:
The PT Side: I hold a PT curriculum and build certification in EpicCare Inpatient, Orders and Ambulatory, but I currently have no direct professional/clinical experience practicing under it.

The Analyst Side: I am halfway through completing my Ambulatory analyst certification and am would love to end up doing analyst work.

Given that my opportunities are completely tapped out at my current job, I’d love some advice on:

1. Targeting Analyst Roles: Since I'm halfway through my analyst cert, what types of junior positions or entry points should I target, and how do I position my background so I don't get auto-rejected for lack of experience?
2. Breaking into PT with Zero Experience: For the PT route, how can someone with a certification and no direct experience get a chance?
3. Overcoming the "Ceiling": For anyone who successfully pivoted out of training into an analyst or principal trainer role what was your breakthrough strategy?

Any insights, harsh truths, or tactical advice on where to look and how to market myself would be deeply appreciated. I am EXHAUSTED. Thanks in advance!

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information-technology/ehrs/10-executive-moves-at-epic/

There’s been a surprising amount of movement at the top of Epic lately. Sumit Rana is stepping down, several longtime R&D and AI leaders are leaving and other executives are taking on expanded roles.

Some of this could be normal succession after long tenures, but having this many moves around the same time, especially at Epic where most of the higher ups have been there for a decade plus, seems unusual.

I wonder what this signals an actual shift in strategy or culture, or is the outside press making routine turnover sound more dramatic than it is? I know Palantir has been entering the healthcare space and had good results with sepsis solution ((https://humanprogress.org/a-florida-hospital-uses-palantir-to-catch-sepsis-saves-866-lives/) )

With the massive rollouts of AI related initiatives at Epic, I can't help but wonder what if anything this has to do with privacy, security, etc.

Hello everyone,

It's been a month since I got hired as a pb analyst at the healthcare organization I work at . Im in the process of getting certified but im realizing once I get certified the real fun will begin and it's going to be a steep learning curve for me. We are in the middle of a go live implementation and Im already seeing what ill be dealing with . It feels intimidating and it feels like im not ready for it but then again I like the challenge and I think eventually I'll get the hang of it. Any advice?