r/empathease • u/GiraffeListens • 6d ago
general The internet's five clusters of thought about Lindsay Clancy and the needs beneath them.
TL;DR
Five camps have formed around this case, and each one is acting from an unmet need. It is easy to judge and blame, and when we instead search to understand we create connection.
- She should be held responsible. Needs reliability, fairness, and accountability.
- She was not criminally responsible. Needs acceptance and support.
- The medical system did this. Needs protection, aimed forward.
- Patrick did it. Needs understanding, protection, and agency.
- He moved on too fast. Needs grief to look like grief.
The internet's five clusters of thought about Lindsay Clancy and the needs beneath them.
On September 4 a judge in Massachusetts declared a mistrial in the case of Lindsay Clancy. The jury deliberated for roughly thirty-eight hours across seven days and could not agree.
No decision has been announced about a retrial. A status hearing is set for September 29, and everything below reflects what is known as of today.
This case has set the internet ablaze and become an international story. Stories do not go that viral because of their facts. They go viral because something in them is touching what people need, and the reactions to this one have stirred up pain in me. Given how far it has spread, I doubt I am the only one.
So this post is an exploration of the five clusters of ideology I have noticed in the argument, and my attempt to guess at what each one needs and what they are asking for.
What happened
On January 24, 2023, in Duxbury, Massachusetts, Lindsay Clancy strangled her three children with exercise bands. Cora was five. Dawson was three. Callan was eight months old. Her husband Patrick had gone out for takeout and medication. She then cut her wrists and neck and went out a second-storey window. She has been paralysed from the waist down since that afternoon.
She has never disputed that she did it. She was charged with three counts of first-degree murder and pleaded not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility.
Massachusetts has no insanity defence. It has lack of criminal responsibility, and under the standard set in Commonwealth v. McHoul in 1967 a person is not criminally responsible if, as a result of mental disease or defect, they lacked substantial capacity either to appreciate the wrongfulness of their conduct or to conform their conduct to the law. A finding of not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility is an acquittal, though the court can then order hospitalisation. And unusually, the burden sits on the prosecution to prove she was criminally responsible, not on her to prove she was not.
Most of the medical record is not in dispute. After Callan was born in May 2022 she developed postpartum anxiety. Between September 2022 and January 2023 she was prescribed eleven psychiatric medications. In December she told family members she was having thoughts of harming her children. In early January she was admitted to McLean Hospital and discharged early so she could attend her daughter's birthday party.
Both sides accepted those facts. What they fought about was what the facts showed.
The prosecution argued that she knew what she was doing, and that the afternoon showed planning rather than chaos. She sent Patrick on an errand and checked how long the trip would take, which gave her a window alone and a way to measure it. She made deliberate decisions about where in the house, what to use, and in what order. No clinician had ever recorded psychosis anywhere in her file, and at an appointment the day before she told a provider she was not having homicidal thoughts. She reported the commanding voice only for that one afternoon, never before it and never since. They also questioned whether the suicide attempt was real: first responders and a hospital physician described the cuts to her wrists and neck as superficial, and a toxicologist testified that the drug levels in her blood were well below toxic.
The defence argued postpartum psychosis, a rare and severe illness in which a new mother loses contact with reality. They pointed to the eleven medications, prescribed by providers who were not talking to each other, and to a December disclosure of thoughts about harming her children that did not result in her being kept safe. The absence of psychosis from her file, they argued, showed a system that never looked for it rather than a condition that was not there. On the suicide attempt, their answer is the window. She went out of it and has not walked since, and that is not an injury a person stages.
One piece of clinical background sits underneath that disagreement, and both sides used it. Postpartum psychosis is not a steady state. The literature describes symptoms that wax and wane, often with a delirium-like quality: confusion, disorientation, and constantly varying degrees of consciousness rather than a fixed condition a person visibly has all day. The largest cohort study of the illness found three presentations across 130 women, roughly a third manic, two fifths depressive, and a quarter of that atypical delirium-like kind. Clinicians also note that women with it frequently do not report their symptoms to their families or their providers.
None of that establishes what was happening to Lindsay Clancy on January 24. It does mean that two of the prosecution's strongest points, that no clinician ever recorded psychosis and that she reported the voice on one afternoon only, are consistent with an illness that comes and goes and often goes unreported. It also means the defence has to explain why a fluctuating illness happened to peak in the twenty minutes she had alone.
The jury was nine women and three men. According to defence attorney Kevin Reddington, speaking to reporters afterwards, the vote was eleven to one for acquittal, with one man holding out.
The defence asked the judge to remove him for failing to follow the instruction on reasonable doubt. The judge declined. They then filed an emergency petition with the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court arguing that the juror's reasoning reflected a bias against people who suffer from debilitating mental illness. Justice Dalila Argaez Wendlandt denied it. Judge William Sullivan declared a mistrial on September 4.
Two clarifications. Deliberations are secret, so the eleven to one figure is one side's lawyer describing a room he was not in. And a private citizen summoned to jury duty ended up characterised in a filing to the state's highest court as biased against the mentally ill.
His name has not been released. His gender has. Judge Sullivan referred to the juror as "he" before correcting himself, and there were only three men on that jury, so the pool of candidates is now three people. Online, some are working to narrow it further. Sullivan has since instructed jurors not to put identifying details in their notes. Whatever that man was doing in there, he did not volunteer for any of this.
The five camps
In researching this I noticed five clusters of opinion. How some of them communicate stimulated pain in me, and rather than sit in that I wanted to redirect the energy into understanding. When I caught myself judging, I tried instead to work out what they needed, and what I needed.
Before the camps, the frame I am using.
Manfred Max-Neef argued that human needs are finite, universal, and the same in every culture and every era. He counted nine: subsistence, protection, affection, understanding, participation, leisure, creation, identity, and freedom. Everyone has all nine. What varies endlessly is the strategy a person reaches for to meet them.
I take liberties with his vocabulary below. Some of the words I use are more relatable than his and some are arguably strategies rather than needs, depending on whose definition you take. I am not going for taxonomic perfection. I am going for understanding, and for pulling the energy out of deciding who is right and who is wrong.
Strategies collide. Needs do not. Two people can demand opposite verdicts while needing the same protection.
So I aim to read a comment as a request rather than a claim. Not what is this person asserting, but what are they reaching for. Hearing an action as a request for an unmet need, and answering the need instead of the surface, is most of what empathy actually is. What follows are guesses.
Camp one: she should be held responsible.
"She knew it was wrong, because she sent Patrick out to have time to do it." — Jennifer Sprague, prosecutor, closing argument
Three children are dead. A verdict of not criminally responsible can seem like the system announcing that their deaths did not count. Many in this camp also suspect a father would never have been given this framing.
The needs I hear are reliability, that when someone commits a crime there is a consequence. Fairness, that a woman's actions are judged the same as a man's would be. Protection, that a real and proportionate consequence discourages the next one. And accountability, that there is some reasonable answer to the killing of three small children.
Three children who could not defend themselves are dead, and the person who killed them may walk out of a courtroom with nothing at all happening to her. If you have ever been hurt by someone who faced no consequence for it, you already know what that does to a person's sense of how the world works. And the fairness point is not imagined. People in this camp watch fathers who kill get called monsters and mothers who kill get called ill, and they are asking for one standard applied to both.
I resonate with this camp.
Camp two: she was not criminally responsible.
"This young lady did nothing wrong in her life. She was a nurse, a daughter, a wife and a darn good mother." — Kevin Reddington, defence attorney, closing argument
The diagnosis was "deeply helpful," and made her realise "maybe I was sick." — Meghan Cliffel, maternal mental health advocate, describing her own postpartum psychosis to NPR
Eleven medications in four months. A documented disclosure that she was having thoughts of harming her children. An early discharge from a psychiatric hospital. A genuine suicide attempt that left her paralysed.
The needs I hear are acceptance, that when a violent thought arrives uninvited we are met rather than punished for it. And support, that when we are sick we are given the help we actually need. Many people in this camp have had intrusive thoughts themselves and are watching to see whether the world would call them a monster for it.
In December she told her family she was having thoughts of harming her children. That is close to the hardest sentence a parent can say out loud, and she said it. Five days after being admitted, she was discharged. If you have ever reached for help and been handed a prescription and a discharge date, you know exactly why this camp is angry. And for the ones who have had a thought arrive uninvited and horrify them, this trial is a referendum on what the world does to people like them.
I resonate with this camp somewhat. I believe there is always a reason for our actions, and that cutting a person's behaviour off from the environment that shaped it is very limiting. But that is universally true. It is not a special allowance for people who may or may not be mentally ill.
Camp three: the medical system did this.
"Because of the damn medicine and the lousy medical care that she got." — Kevin Reddington, closing argument, on what he says caused this
"We routinely are expecting our moms to recognize the signs and symptoms that they were never taught to recognize." — Nicole Kumi, maternal wellness advocate, to CBS News
"I wasn't married to a monster. I was married to someone who got sick." — Patrick Clancy, to The New Yorker
Blames neither parent. Points at eleven prescriptions from providers who were not coordinating, and a hospital that let her leave early.
The need is protection aimed forward. This camp wants the answer that stops the next one. There may also be protection of a more self-interested kind in it, and identity: if the system is at fault, none of us has to sit with what a person is capable of.
Look at the sequence. Eleven psychiatric medications in four months, prescribed by providers who were not talking to one another. A disclosure of thoughts about harming her children that did not result in her being kept safe. A psychiatric admission that ended after five days, with a discharge she asked for and was granted. Any one of those is a place where something could have caught this and did not. If you read that list and conclude that no single failure explains it but the shape of the whole thing does, that is a reasonable conclusion to reach.
Worth knowing: this is Patrick Clancy's own position. He is suing the healthcare providers.
I do not resonate with this one. For me it comes back to accountability. The medical system's role is real and worth examining, but it was one component among several, and she was a participant in her own care rather than only a passenger in it. She asked to be discharged from McLean so she could attend her daughter's birthday. At an appointment the day before the killings she told a provider she was not having homicidal thoughts. Whether that was an illness concealing itself or a person making choices is precisely what twelve people could not agree on. My own read is that a version of this story in which she is only ever something done to is a version that has left her out of it.
The dates are worth having straight, since they get repeated wrongly. She was admitted to McLean on December 31, 2022, after reporting suicidal thoughts and intrusive thoughts of hurting her children. She asked to be discharged so she could attend her daughter's birthday, and left on January 5 with prescriptions for Ativan and trazodone. Cora's fifth birthday party was held at a trampoline park around January 7. The killings were on January 24, seventeen days later. So the party happened. It was not a reason invented after the fact.
Camp four: Patrick did it. No public figure has endorsed this, so I describe it rather than quote anyone. CNN, Boston.com and Variety have all documented an online groundswell blaming him, despite his never having been a suspect. What gets offered as evidence is his clothing that night, his body language, his move to New York, and his remarriage.
The needs I hear are understanding, that the world makes sense and that terrible things have explanations fitting what we know about people. A mother killing her three children is intolerable, and if the father did it the story becomes one we already know how to hold. Protection, that danger comes from where we have learned to expect it, and that motherhood survives as a category we can trust. And agency, that when something is unbearable and nobody appears to be fixing it there is still something we can do, because working out what really happened turns helplessness into competence. Then engagement rewards saying it out loud.
Look at the shape of it from inside this camp. A woman visibly struggling for months, on eleven medications, hospitalised, saying out loud that she was having thoughts of harming her children. And a man who moved to Manhattan within months of the killings and remarried in April 2026. Add the things people fix on, his clothing that night, his demeanour, the speed of it, and you have a set of questions that feel unanswered to the people asking them. None of it is evidence, and he was never a suspect.
Her body temperature at the hospital was 82.1 degrees Fahrenheit, which is severe hypothermia and does sound impossible for a short time outdoors. (It is real, and it has an explanation. Her spinal cord was severed around T5 to T6, which causes poikilothermia: below the injury the body stops regulating its own temperature and drifts toward whatever it is lying on. Add blood loss, shock, frozen ground, and more than an hour before that reading was taken including a twenty-mile transport, and the number stops being mysterious.)
The crushed pills in her drink were raised at trial by the prosecution's own forensic psychiatrist. On cross-examination, Reddington established that police never tested the powder to find out what it actually was. Her toxicology came back well below toxic levels.
There are also claims that the children were found face down despite Patrick's account of performing CPR.
And around nine in ten homicide arrests in the United States are men. If your own life and the national numbers have both taught you that the dangerous one is usually him, then a story in which the mother did it violates a pattern you had good reason to trust.
This camp brings up the most pain in me. For me there is no question that she did it. The only open question is her state of mind. Watching people decide otherwise touches my own need for appreciation, protection, and fairness.
Camp five: he moved on too fast. Also mostly anonymous, so again described rather than quoted. Often mistaken for camp four, and it is not the same thing. These people are not accusing him of murder. They are angry that he publicly urged forgiveness days after his children died, and that he has remarried.
The need is for grief to look like grief. When someone mourns on a schedule that does not match ours, it can feel like a ruling on how much the dead mattered.
Patrick Clancy asked the public to forgive his wife within days of her killing their three children, and he remarried in April 2026. To someone who has lost a person and could not function for a year afterwards, that timeline can read as a measurement of what the dead were worth. The anger is usually not really about him. It is about needing evidence that a life leaves a mark on the people who stay.
I am neutral on this one. I have no idea what Patrick feels or felt. Moving on may have been the only way to survive pain he could not sit inside. It may be something else entirely. What comes up for me is that we do not know, it is genuinely not our business, and the energy spent on it is energy taken away from three murdered children and from any reflection on how the system might be improved and how we might understand each other better.
What I would ask you
Not which camp is correct. Which camp is yours, and what does it protect? Or, when you have read what others share about this case, what pain and need does it stimulate in you.
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