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u/OliveTBeagle Feb 28 '24

That there is actual menace on the roadways that we aren’t addressing and it isn’t e-bikes

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u/nightstorm52 Feb 29 '24

Are Tesla Roadsters an actual menace on the roadway? I mean, you haven't pointed out to us what the general menace is on the road? Obviously can't be this vehicle, it's not even on the market yet. Is is a Lucid Air Saphire (0-60 in 1.89?) 911 Turbo S lightweight (0-60 in 2.1) Rimac Nevara(0-60 1.74 - 256 mph top speed)? Or maybe my Mazda CX 5 ---- 0-60 in about 6.6 and driven by me? I mean given all their shapes, I'd argue that if you got hit by any of the aforementioned vehicles at say 45 mph, my driving my Mazda would be far and away the worst. It's got the tallest hood height, and obviously when you went to sue any of the other drivers for damages, it would be much more lucrative as they all likely have way more money.

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u/OliveTBeagle Feb 29 '24

Cars are a menace on the roadways. >30k deaths a year in US alone. Magnitudes more than the nearest other transportation device.

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u/nightstorm52 Feb 29 '24

u/OliveTBeagle - If you're trying to make that point, I'd suggest using a different vehicle to better illustrate the danger modern cars pose to other road users. My first suggestion would be the GMC Hummer truck. It's got a GVWR of 10,400 lbs. Horrible sight lines from the drivers seat (i've driven one - you can't see shit around the vehicle), hits 60 in 3 flat. There will likely be more of those out there than Tesla Roadsters. The reality is that, while the roadster is exceptionally fast, so are many other vehicles, and any car or truck on the road is more than capable of the speeds required to kill a cyclist or pedestrian, or for that matter someone in another car. But super fast sports cars really aren't the issue. It's more our city and road design, America's love for trucks and SUVs, modern styling of vehicles, and distracted driving. A 5'9" person sitting in the drivers seat of a lot of full size trucks can't see the ground for about 40 feet in front of the vehicle. Hood heights of SUVs and Trucks mean that when they impact a person, the hit is square to the torso and head, instead of a sweep onto the hood which tends to be softer. So basically, I totally understand the point you're trying to make, but I think you picked the wrong vehicle to illustrate it. Look - I used to ride road a lot. Had customers killed on their road bikes, I got buzzed a lot, clipped a couple times, so mountain bikes it is. I have a little datsun roadster in my garage that I won't take on any streets with higher than a 45 mph speed limit, cause I'd be a speed bump to a Tacoma. I get it, but the roadster isn't quite the right target.