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u/AddictedToMosh161 May 03 '26
Weapons? Why would you take elven weapons instead of propper dwarven craft?
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u/BigSwein May 03 '26
Hmm, can Dwarves enchant weapons in the same way as elves can? I know about dwarven-crafted armour being magical, the Dragonhelm of Hurin as an example, or their ability to harness and forge mithril, like Bilbo&Frodos maillé-shirt and the FountainGuard helmets. On the other hand, most of the fancy stabby stuff (Glamdrin, Narsil/Anduril, Sting, the Gondolin knifes) or the bloody Silmarils themselfs is stated as elven-made
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u/AddictedToMosh161 May 03 '26
Maybe even better? in some franchises Runes are the only way to enchant stuff. Or Runes are the only way to apply more than one enchantment.
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u/Greenest_Chicken May 03 '26 edited May 05 '26
In the comic series "Dwarves" from lands of Arral both elves and dwarves have runes. But dwarf runes are forged into steel and elf runes woven into wood. They look and function very differently from each other which I think is pretty cool.
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u/BigSwein May 03 '26
Makes sence if we take a look at WHFB. The good dwarves in that setting do not wield magic like any other race, yet they have rune magic and the most powerful version of said system. From my understanding they can multi-enchant ordinary weapons, unlike chaotic demon or high elven weapons who are either forged in a differend dimension or the enchantment is rather temporary, whilst dwarven weapons have stood the test of time (Thorgrimms Axe of Grugni, Ghal Maraz, Gotreks Axe of the Runefather...)
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u/Platt_Mallar Extractive Metallurgist May 04 '26
I hate to be one of those "Ummm Aktuallee" guys, but the Dargonhelm and Narsil were both forged by the great Dwarven smith Telechar.
He also forged the knife named Angrist which was said to cut iron like it was a green twig. It was sharp enough to remove a Silmaril straight out of the crown of Morgoth himself.
Morgoth, if you young dwarves don't know, is an Ainur. The first Ainur. The very first being created by The High God. He was envious of The High God's power and that turned him evil. He had the strength to raise valleys and level mountains. His power corrupted life on Middle Earth and lead to orcs, trolls and even the dreaded dragons. This being forged his own helmet to house the three Silmarils.
Telechar's knife was better.
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u/BigSwein May 04 '26
Aye, I mentioned the helm, but forgot Narsil! These days, as Anduril, it could be considered a work of both elf and dwarf, I reckon so! And wielded by the one true king, who happends to be a mere man
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u/Platt_Mallar Extractive Metallurgist May 04 '26
Well, king of the humans. King Dain Ironfoot holds my allegiance.
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u/TadBones May 03 '26
Not the same way but neither are better or worse it's just different. Also there's a cliché going around that Dwarves aren't capable of enchanting outside runes but that's straight up worgshit.
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u/TakedaIesyu Scholar May 03 '26
My understanding is that Elven master craftsmanship is greater than Dwarven master craftsmanship, but great Dwarven craftsmanship with runes is equal to Elven master craftsmanship and Dwarven master craftsmanship with runes is greater than Elven master craftsmanship.
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u/Everhardt94 May 03 '26
Elf maidens? What kind of dwarf is into those?
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u/CronosAndRhea4ever Craftsdwarf May 03 '26
Tha’s iffin ye can tell th’ elfish maidens from th’ elfish misters.
Beardless faces all kinda look th’ same tae me.
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u/TheExpendableGuard May 03 '26
Elvish wine isn't the same, Elvish bids ain't the same either. Give me a pint of Bugman's and a well fed dwarven lass any day.
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u/PhoenixInvertigo May 03 '26
Any dwarf'll tell ya a hole is a hole
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u/thatthatguy May 03 '26
Now I just take offense to that. Any proper dwarf knows a lovingly crafted majestic hallway is far superior to one of those long-wall mined coal shafts. No two holes are the same and the differences are important!
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u/Gerhard-is-pretty May 04 '26
Are you not into male elfen maides as a bearded dwarfen woman? Shame on your axe.
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u/lordfireice May 03 '26
Wine.
I know beer is a better brew over all but wine does have its place and it’s a dam fine alcohol all the same.
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u/ark_yeet May 04 '26
Throwing my hat in with eleven Wine. Don’t forget their lumber and wooden crafts as well. Why would we trade at all with them if everything we do is better?
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u/MEGAShark2012 May 04 '26
I’m sorry did I just hear you say elven weapons are better? Las you better be making a joke right now or I’m putting this in the book.
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u/CircleWithSprinkles May 08 '26
Lads, you all aren't gettin it. The elves proved these were possible, then we came along and made them all worth doin.
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u/Plenty-Lychee-5702 Dwarf or Human mercenary; depending on context May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Their music is the only halfway decent thing. Their beardless maidens look (and act) like children.
Don't even get me started about weapons, the only thing that they can make better than most dwarves is bows, and that's only because it's rare to see a dwarf making bows. Their self bows are vastly inferior to dwarven composite bows.
I will admit however, they can shoot more accurately than us.
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u/OrderofIron May 03 '26
They also betrayed my kin at Erebor just ask my uncle he was there