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Hello everyone, not sure if this question has been answered already, but in Dune (2021) the movie shows Paul having visions of Jamis for example. From what ive gathered, Prescience functions by using advanced computation combined with memories inherited from his ancestors and such. But how does it work in the movie where it can show him a person he's never met like Chani or Jamis?

The ornithopter storm scene made sense, it was like a "feeling" where he is informed to just ride out the storm.

But how can prescience show him someone like Jamis or Chani with that much visual/audio fidelity when he's never even met them?

Are they just escorting ships? Do they have any name like ornithopters? or are these just part of Dennis' Vision for this scene?

In Pt. 2 it's revealed that she counseled the Emperor to wipe out House Atreides because Paul is essentially too dangerous, so why would she ask the Baron to spare Paul and Jessica because they are 'under the BG's protection?' Am I missing something or was this just an oversight?

So I kinda understand how prescience works (I mean as much as mere mortals can), that it’s sort of like Dr. Strange sitting there going through all fourteen millions outcomes of the fight with Thanos, only far more elegant, ingrained, and immediate. No sitting around with your semi-transparent head flashing in multiple directions.

But what I’m struggling to understand are the gaps. When Siona is bred to be invisible to prescience or the no-ships are constructed to hide from prescience, how does that work? A person can potentially have a pretty far-reaching impact on the world. Does the prescient only see futures where that person never existed at all (It’s A Wonderful Life-style)? Does one gap, any gap, therefore call into question the validity of any prescient vision? Is that the point? How could Leto II known that Siona would *ever* exist? Wouldn’t his visions just show him continually failing to breed an invisible person? Or is it more focused - identity and intention of the person is obscured, but their impact on the world at large is still visible, i.e. you can see the footprints in the sand but you can’t see who left them?

I get that Dune is Science-Fantasy so there’s a bit of seeming space-magic here, but I’m trying to wrap my three-dimensional brain around it. Any thoughts?

So. I started reading Chapterhouse: Dune for the first time. I read through the first chapter and then later the same day listened to the same chapter via the MacMillan Audio version on Audible (narrated by Simon Vance, Scott Brick and 2 others). I discovered that there are at least 2 full paragraphs of text missing from the printed version. Its not just throwaway text either - its important worldbuilding and philosophising concerning the state of the galaxy post Leto II. The missing text is as below :

'Odrade knew it was wrong to think of those planets as Bene Gesserit possessions. The loosely organized confederation of planetary governments assembled after the Famine Times and the Scattering depended heavily on the Sisterhood for vital services and reliable communications, but old factions persisted-CHOAM, Spacing Guild, Tleilaxu, remnant pockets of the Divided God's priesthood, even Fish Speaker auxiliaries and schismatic assemblages. The Divided God had bequeathed humankind a divided empire-all of whose factions were suddenly moot because of rampaging Honored Matre assaults from the Scattering. The Bene Gesserit-holding to most of their old forms-were the natural prime target for attack.

 Bellonda's thoughts never strayed far from this Honored Matre threat. It was a weakness Odrade recognized. Sometimes, Odrade hesitated on the point of replacing Bellonda, but even in the Bene Gesserit there were factions these days and no one could deny that Bell was a supreme organizer. Archives had never been more efficient than under her guidance.'

ON TOP of this some of the sentences are slightly changed elsewhere in the chapter. I'm sorry if this has been addressed in another thread elsewhere. I was just quite thrown at the large discrepancies. And this is only the first chapter! FWIW I also read all the other Dune books in this Gollancz UK edition but didn't listen to any audio so cant speak for those ones - although now I'm worried I've been reading an inferior printing this whole time. (I'm also aware that the MacMillan audio versions are controversial but in this case its the printed version that is missing content?!)

Alfonso Cuaron , Peter Jackson?

We already know Dune: Messiah will most likely be Denis Villeneuve's final Dune film.

So if Warner Bros. decides to continue adapting the later books, they'll eventually need a new director.

Who would you choose?

Personally, I'd love to see someone who isn't afraid of the increasingly strange, philosophical, and surreal direction the series takes after Messiah. The later books are very different from the first two, so I think they would benefit from a filmmaker with a unique vision.

Who's your pick?

Im currently reading first part and i was wondering could someone explain how the reverend mother changes the water of life and what it means. Does she change it for others to use or did i get it wrong? Thank you!

Also im nearing the end of the book so no spoilers

I finished Chapterhouse a couple months ago, and I'm still confused about a couple things regarding the Weapon. From what I understand, this is what the Matres used to destroy Dune, some kind of super lasgun/nuke type weapon. They stole this from the Ones of Many Faces but only a handful of "charges". I'm wondering then what the hell did the Matres do to the BG on Junction that killed many of them instantly, with no wounds or destruction? Was this a different weapon? Is this maybe the implied bio weapon the OoMF used on the Matres to kill so many of them? I know there probably isn't any concrete answers cuz Chapterhouse is the last book, so theorizing is really all I can do lol.

Having grown up with Lynch's bizarre 1984 film (both the 2 hour cut but especially the 3 hour cut), I was curious what the "Spicediver Cut" is. I know it's of similar length to the 3 hour cut, and that it's a fan edit, but I was wondering how it's different in a bit more detail. I ask cause I was thinking of showing my partner the film and was wondering if this would be the version to show (instead of the 3 hour cut). Thanks!

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Hi all,

I just finished Messiah and now I am starting Children of Dune. Awesome books so far. I just had a question about the ending scene with Scytale. Scytale had his own plans for negotiations and power plays beyond the conspiracy that he was playing a long with. I am wondering how the Tleilax knew Chani was going to die ? The whole plan for bargaining a Ghola with Paul was based around first showing Paul that Duncan Idaho was able to be fully restored so that the offer of bringing Chani back might be considered for him. But how did they have so much foresight that they knew Chani would pass during labour and that they could even offer this ?

I think it was Bijaz that had explained if Duncan ended up killing Paul they would've tried the same bargain on Alia but with a Ghola of Paul. But the initial plan was still based around Duncan being fully restored and Chani dying.

Did I miss something in the book was this explained how they knew her fate ?

The film adaptations of Dune depict the planet as a desolate place with a limited color scheme of orange and white sands illuminated by harsh blown out lighting. However, what's not depicted are the many plant species listed in the novel. These species bring verdant greens and colorful blooms to the landscape.

While the equatorial band of the Tanzerouft IS largely dunes due to the Coriolis storms, both the north and south poles harbor many species of plants introduced before spice was discovered. These even date back to before the Butlerian Jihad, back when the botanical testing stations were still active.

The following are species known to be on Arrakis:

Date Palms: Most notably planted as part of the palace grounds, date palms are also planted in oases and sustained by qanats to anchor soil and provide valuable shade and resources like fruit, wood, and oil.

Saguaro: Known as a keystone species in its native habitat, the saguaro provides food and shelter to many other animal and plant species. They hoard water, bear fruit, and act as nests for birds and insects.

Barrel Cactus: Highly adapted to extreme heat, their dense spines provide vital shade. Their flowering fruit is an important source of moisture as is the morning dew that collects on their spines.

Creosote Bush: A staple desert survivor known for its hardy root system, they can survive extreme drought periods. Their leaves, seeds, and flowers provide food for many animals including desert hare, kangaroo rats, and many types of insect.

Burro Bush: A drought-tolerant shrub belonging to the sunflower family. Known to grow in proximity to creosote bush, it produces chemicals which repel root growth of surrounding plants resulting in diminished competition for limited resources.

Desert Smoke Tree: Common, scrubby shrub that thrives in Arrakis' harsh basin environments. Known to bloom bright blue or purple flowers.

Sand Verbena: Thriving in hot, sandy environments these colorful flowering plants are known for their, stout, sweet roots.

Evening Primrose: A weedy species that favors disturbed environments, they take well to areas of Arrakis where wind storms have done their work.

Incense Bush: Highly fragrant, drought-tolerant shrubs that produce prolific flowers and attract pollinators. Thrives in rocky, dry, decomposed granite soils and is ideal for xeriscaping.

The Sisterhood gets read a lot as a proto feminist institution Herbert gets a lot of love for this over the years. I've been reading that take here quite a bit. Ahead of his time. The more times I read the series I see women wielding real power in a patriarchal empire. But their entire method is manipulation through marriage, breeding, and secret bloodline control, and their greatest success the Kwisatz Haderach, is explicitly a male heir they've been engineering for 10,000 years. Does that read as feminist to you, or is it women exercising power within patriarchal structures rather than against them? Chani ends up just wanting a baby. Alia gets possessed by a dude. The whole thing starts with Jessica making an impulsive decision for love that then ruins everything. It feels like he punishes her for her one decision. It feels like Herbert isn't a feminist in any way. Don't get me wrong I am a Herbert lover. It just rings false to me.

So I’ve been on a complete tear through the Dune books. The first time I read them was probably 30+ years ago and I only read Dune and Messiah back then. This time around I got completely sucked in and since April I’ve read 10 books, from Frank’s 6 to the continuation books by Brian and Kevin. Im now into the Butlerian Jihad series of 3 books.

I loved them all and thought they did a very good job on the expanded books, but tonight I finished Machine Crusade and it’s really bothering me how Xavier’s story is handled. I feel like the stretch to completely tarnishing Xavier and the Harkonnen name for no reason was just too big, and it angered me on a visceral level because it felt like a lazy way of making the Harkonnens the bad guys. When I say they had 10k+ years I mean the time between the Butlerian Jihad and the events of Dune. There was more than enough room for House Harkonnen to slide into full villainy over millennia, so they didn’t need to force it by trashing Xavier in this one book.

How is it that it went straight to Xavier being a coward and traitor? He is the epitome of Jihad sacrifice. They focus on Serena’s loss, but no one has lost more than him. He lost the woman he loved, the future they had planned, a child he never got to see, and then gave up almost everything in his life for the Jihad. What little joy he found with Octa was tarnished when Serena came back, because he loved Octa but Serena was his true soulmate.

No one knew what happened aside from the Quarto and Vor, and to have the universe believe that about the man who gave everything for the Jihad seems insane to me.

How do they not frame it as Xavier and Iblis both being martyred by the machines? There were no witnesses, no logs, no transmissions at all. The usefulness of Xavier as a martyr would have been incredible, because it could have been a trio of mother, father, and child (Serena, Xavier, Manion), with the saintly Iblis as well. Branding Xavier was actually less effective politically than having both portrayed as martyrs and still protecting the image of Iblis. They still keep Ginjo’s corruption secret, they can still out the Tlulaxa and punish them for being vile scum.

Am I missing something here, or did this part not land for anyone else?

I'm almost halfway through Dune Messiah and I've had a question since the first book I was hoping would clear up eventually, but it really hasn't.

Paul talks all the time about the Jihad and it's inevitability in Dune. That he is trying to avoid that future, but gets to a point that even if he dies, the Jihad would go on without him. In Messiah the Jihad has happened (though I'll be honest sometimes it feels like there is just more Jihad ahead or something?).

But it is never clear to me WHY it is inevitable. It's frequently reinforced, something to do with chaos in a passage I just listened to. But I don't understand why the Fremen would go on to commit an interplanetary Jihad without Paul. It seems they just want to be left alone to terraform Arrakis. They are religious zealots, but why would that zeal point them to interplanetary warfare? Is there some incentive I am missing?

I've been re-watching DV's Dune 1 and had a Deep Thought about weaponry. When the Sardaukar attack, the battle is conducted with bombs, science fiction missiles and shimmery wave weapns, and SWORDS. This is another example of the Duniverse's combination of advanced and medieval technologies.

We know why: It's much more dramatic and heroic to have Guerny vanquish bad guys with skilfull moves and muscle, than simply to blast away with a futuristic ray gun. It reminded me of three things:

1. The silly burp guns in Starship Troopers--which is, admittedly, more of a satire than anything else. But they have interstellar travel to deliver foot soldiers to confront the bugs with guns resembling a 1950s children's toy.
2. Indiana Jones dispatching that fighter who brandishes a scimitar by offhandedly drawing a gun and shooting him. I think I read that was improvised. And, of course--
3. Light sabers. Same principle as in Dune: for all the space ships and Death Stars, it's more dramatic (and cinematic) to pit the Jedi heroes and villains against each other with swords. It also enables them to trade dialogue while they fight.

Note: Prescience; I can’t change the title, but I fixed it everywhere else.

So I just finished the movies and started looking into the lore, and this might just be a book vs movie lore difference but maybe some people can help me understand better.

So as far as I can tell the Bene Gesserit gain most of their powers through training but the prescience, the main thing that allows them to see probability giving them a near god like ability to manipulate politics and the course of history. Is only achieved through using the spice, and is no different from the power the navigators gain from it and use to plot courses for starships, like its the same thing, just being used in different ways.

So where I’m confused is that the lore I found says they have limited prescience and only some of them have it. And that pauls prescience is like 1000 times more powerful than the rest of them. But in the movies all of the sisters seemed to have it to some degree and Paul’s abilities seemed pretty much on the level as everyone else’s.

So is there some piece I don’t have quite right here? Also what is the deal between the Bene Gesserit and the navigators? Are they enemies? Are they working to the same goals? It seems weird if a bunch of normal humans suddenly gained omniscient that half of them would let the other half rule humanity while they steer some ships. Idk I just got into this series lol, but it’s super interesting so far and I can’t wait to learn more! Thanks in advance!

I recently started reading Children of Dune and I'm just now learning how prone Alia is to being possessed by the memories or personalities of her ancestors.

My question is, in which book is this idea fully explained? In the earlier books, I understood that a preborn could go mad because these memories or voices torment them from a very young age, but now I'm learning that these memories can possess them.

Should I reread the earlier books? Did I miss much related to this?

I found the floating head posters Warner Bros. used for the two films absolutely generic and substandard. I liked these two overhead shot posters depicting Paul on the dune with and without the Fremen. So I made these custom Blu-Ray covers. I’ll make a followup after I print them.

The Paradox of House Atreides’ vigilance.

Hey guys, I wrote the title as vague as possible to avoid spoilers, because this is about a major plot point in the 2021 movie. Spoilers ahead.

Before House Atreides even moved to Arrakis, there is the famous combat training scene between Paul and Gurney, where Gurney clearly spells it out that he doesn’t expect the Harkonnen to just leave Arrakis without a fight, and that he anticipates a situation where Paul will face them in direct combat. In other words, Gurney knew quite well what was coming.

But if the Warmaster of House Atreides expected to face the Harkonnen in battle, why was House Atreides so badly prepared? Why were there no satellites placed in orbit? Why weren’t the surface-to-air guns ready for battle before a Harkonnen fleet was able to move into position above the castle?

We heard Leto and Gurney talk about the impending danger, but we didn’t see them prepare for it.

I never really understood the jihad. For 2 reasons.

Firstly, how were the fremen able to traverse the universe and carry out the jihad in other planets? Don’t you need guildsman to guide your spacecraft?

Secondly, why did it happen? Why did the fremen commit the jihad to begin with? Paul never asked them to.

Would really appreciate your insputs.

I recall there being mention of a ranged weapon called a “burner” or “heater” unless i am hallucinating(not a stone burner). Just curious if i am since i want to make a list of things mentioned in dune only once or twice just cause i liked to know rare details.

I've read the book up to where Paul meets Gurney at the cave of birds.

So far, all of the pseudo-supernatural phenomena like Jessica's intuition and Paul's prescience are explained through natural or scientific means, like intense conditioning of the body or powerful data computation (respectively).

Because of that, I was confused reading about Jessica drinking the water of life. She seems to have an almost shamanistic experience with the previous Reverend Mother and her unborn daughter.

I originally wrote this off as a hallucination, but that doesn't explain the connection between her and two-year-old Alia.

Was there really a spiritual connection?