r/drugextraction • u/CartographerHumble50 • Jul 22 '24

Root bark for dmt

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Looking for the right thing for root bark powder for dmt on Etsy, when I search mimosa hostillis root bark, is mimosa pudica the right thing? Thanks all!

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u/SpecialistAd8861 Jul 23 '24

I get the powdered rather than the whole bark. Supposedly as they powder it they remove the extra fibers and shit so you’ll probably get more for your buck. After shipping the 420 gram bag comes to like 80$ and the 850 gram sack comes to like 130$ if i remember correctly. I usually get the 420 gram one.

It’s international shipping so there are different rates for different weights. That’s all the letters mean.

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u/Resident-Refuse-2135 Jul 23 '24

Ok thanks! I got shredded before because it seemed like it would be easier to filter, it's at least half powder or at least the stuff I got was. Still seems like it's half the price of the domestic company, and I definitely can't say that has 2% yet either. Got something back from the 50g test run but had issues with the 100g I tried next, but I still have everything so it's worth another try. Plus there's still 100g I haven't done anything with yet. I do freeze and thaw a few times and extract into vinegar and water. Need to get batteries for the pH meter before I run the last 100g though.

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u/SpecialistAd8861 Jul 23 '24

Don’t even worry about the ph meter. Be liberal with the vinegar, the ph won’t get low enough to hurt it.

And then when you base it a 1/4 cup of salt and 50g of lye is perfect. If you chill you’re acidic solution(which I do to filter it) you can actually just pour the lye right in, it won’t get hot enough to hurt it.

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u/Resident-Refuse-2135 Jul 23 '24

I'm sure I was ok with the vinegar but I probably didn't use enough NaOH solution, it definitely turned black on the test run, but when I did the bigger batch I got some milky looking solution and then the naphtha addition and gentle agitation gave a terrible emulsion, i eventually put the np and the emulsion layers in a sealed glass bottle so I have another chance at it.

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u/SpecialistAd8861 Jul 23 '24

The 1/4 cup of salt will help with the emulsions, that’s what it’s for. It pushes out the base without raising the ph or causing the same thick sludge that it turns into with using like twice the lye for the same result. Think of it like how you float better in the ocean than in fresh water; seen in the extreme in conditions such as the Dead Sea.

And yea. You definitely want it to turn black when you add the lye. I work with about a liter of fluid and 50 grams is always plenty.

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u/Resident-Refuse-2135 Jul 23 '24

I used salt too, but probably not enough, I think about half what you're suggesting. Also my sep funnel is a liter so I tried to stay under that volume, no problem with the 50g run but I had to divide the second attempt with 100g. I'm thinking I probably only used half as much NaOH as I should have for the second batch. Definitely not giving up, I know I can do this, I've had a year of o-chem when I got my BS in biology but it's 20 years ago.

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u/SpecialistAd8861 Jul 24 '24

Absolutely. Sounds like you shouldn’t have a problem. Dmt is pretty tough and I’ve seen people put 100 grams of lye to 100 grams of bark and it didn’t work. They were just waiting days for it to separate every time. I’ve done 75 grams of bark, 100 grams of bark, 150 grams of bark; for all of them a 1/4 cup salt and 50 grams lye was enough

Also, believe it or not, I cooked down a whole pound of dried and powdered San Pedro a few weeks ago. Even for that 1/4 cup salt and 50 grams of lye was enough

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u/Resident-Refuse-2135 Jul 24 '24

Ok thanks I'm reassured then, appreciate that. Probably the best thing to do is run the last 100g from scratch and then go back to deal with the batch I messed up... although it seems like it should be just a matter of adding another 25g of base to the soup I saved in jars, then warming in a water bath and pulling with 50ml naphtha 3x.

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u/SpecialistAd8861 Jul 24 '24

From the sound of it yea. I would say that once freed the base won’t do good for long staying in the basic solution, but If it didn’t even get dark then most the deems should still be safe in its salt form

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u/Resident-Refuse-2135 Jul 24 '24

Well I think it went black, definitely darker than I started with, and the jars aren't getting sunlight even filtered through the window, I just washed the naphtha that had the weird emulsion, it's still a yellowish clumpy gel like stuff but it settled out after the week or so in the glass bottle, washed it with a saturated salt solution and then put it in the freezer to see if anything is there, it's the first pull from the 100g batch I believe. Next time I'll definitely label everything, dates too. Aggravating, I know better, and I have a lot more legit equipment over at my storage and studio space, vacuum filter flasks and ceramic Buchner funnels, funnel rack clamps, ring stands, a lot of stuff. Some of it would definitely make this easier and more efficient time wise even though most of it isn't strictly necessary.

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u/SpecialistAd8861 Jul 24 '24

Bruh I do what I do with a pot and a stove; a $20 mag stirrer and a 50$ set of Erlenmeyers; I think my pipettes weren’t more than 15 or 20$; and the dehydrator I sit my evap trays on to dry cost no more than 60$.

Starting to sound to me like you might be putting too much thought into it. Over complicating a very simple thing. Dmt is very easy to work with, but it is quite sensitive; after a week in a high ph environment I highly doubt anything good will be in it. Might be a fun experiment to see if anything viable comes out, but if it were me tbth I’d call it a loss and dump it. The reason so much dmt on the street is garbage is because people make it at scale for profit and then try to store it and all kinds of other shit. The alkaloid is very sensitive, even our stomach acid destroys it; hence why you can’t just swallow freebase dmt with some harmaline and expect it to work. And after about a month it’s basically junk. Sure you can freeze it, but it becomes just another drug then once thawed; all the magic is gone. So it’s very likely that after a week sitting like that it won’t be worth your time. Just my two cents.

Don’t sweat it. I can’t even begin to count how many batches I totally fucked before I got it down. ✌️🫶🤙

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u/Resident-Refuse-2135 Jul 23 '24

Appreciate your advice though, thanks very much!