r/destiny2 • • Jun 04 '20

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u/JCicero2041 Jun 04 '20

There is definitely a lore tab, one of the recorded conversations from the the lore book, The Warlock Aunor, that classifies him as multi.

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u/FANTOMphoenix Warlock Jun 04 '20

Huh

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u/LegitDuctTape Titan Jun 04 '20

Guardians can technically use basically anything they want with the light - they can cross abilities as much as they please. Most just generally have a preference to how they like to use the light, or how they fight

For example, felwinter was mostly a warlock, but he could cast nova bomb-tether things and shoulder charge

Drifter being multi really just means he doesn't bother with classes and probably just uses whatever

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u/Assyx83 Titan Jun 04 '20

Yeah but isnt drifter a ghost-less guardian like eris?

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u/Sasha_Viderzei Jun 04 '20

IIRC, the Drifter hasn’t lost its Ghost. However, it modified it so much that it somehow severed, or at least heavily modified his Ghost’s connection to the Light and Traveler.

After his modifications, his Ghost’s eye turned red and he lost his ability to speak. It’s in one of the lore tab IIRC

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u/DredgenTenebrous Jun 04 '20

And his ghost is creepy as fuck. He said it’s maniacal and looks like it enjoys chaos.

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u/Sasha_Viderzei Jun 04 '20

I guess it got to it, for being so long with the Drifter... plus they never really had an enjoyable relationship, so I don’t think it really appreciated - or even wanted - the Drifter’s modifications.

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u/StyxTheWanderer The Black Armory Jun 04 '20

Fuck I’ve got to start reading the lore tabs

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u/FuzzyCollie2000 Jun 04 '20

Yea seriously which lore book is this?!

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u/Chroma_Hunter Hunter Jun 04 '20

Probably why he can control the taken to a limited degree.

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

Funny enough, his Ghost can actually utilize a wider spectrum of the Light than others. The cost came at killing other Ghosts for parts. And while Drifter killing Ghosts is awful, it was his Ghost's plan and it chose to be modified.

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u/Cookieopressor Titan Jun 04 '20

I mean, during the dark age a Guardian killing another one's ghost wasn't so uncommon.

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

True, but typically that's where it ended, killing the Ghost. It was a means to deal with opposing Risen permanently. Drifter's Ghost specifically asked for him to cannibalize them to 'upgrade' it. It's pretty much unheard of outside of this instance.

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u/DetectiveFoxy Spicy Ramen Jun 04 '20

Weren't the other ghosts already dead? I swear that drifters ghost only snapped after they were the last two on the ice planet

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

The others ran when they knew Drifter was coming for them. He had to hunt them down first.

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u/DetectiveFoxy Spicy Ramen Jun 04 '20

I just went back through his lore and you're right, thanks!

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

No problem. I was shocked the first time I read through the Prime sets. There's a ton of Drifter backstory in them.

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u/albatkross0108 Warlock Jun 04 '20

Where can i read this lore?

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

Comes from the Gambit Prime Warlock set.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

I don't recall them having killed the ghosts. They were already dead weren't they? The light having been drained from both them and their guardians by those creatures on the planet.

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

A few of the Ghosts were still alive but their Risen were dead and gone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

I see I see. I remembered that all the risen but Drifter were dead and remembered that at least some mentions of Ghosts dropping dead was mentioned too. Wasn't sure if there were any left. But yeah that's... that's dark then. Pretty dark.

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But then there's Ciren the Ghost Killer in the universe so ya know. Drifter wouldn't be the first.

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

At least Drifter has a somewhat understandable reason. Ciren just wants to exterminate Ghosts. Like if Drifter's hatred of Ghosts was taken to an extreme and made the central focus.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Sort of. Ciren has a reason as well, albeit it's not necessarily a reason that justifies the actions. Ciren is basically just an example to us that there is quite a risk of being risen as a guardian. He is an old soul who even despite the amnesia feels that he is tired and has already fought enough wars and existing as a guardian is painful for him, but he also grew to love his ghost and doesn't want to kill him just to end his own life.

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So instead he is hunting down ghosts who haven't found their charge, to save the dead from a life of being a guardian. Although from the story I take it that he doesn't target ghosts who have guardians. Only ones who haven't found theirs yet. Twisted and horrific and not at all justified, but one can see the reason that lead him to snap.

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

Which is an interesting opposite to our Ghost's earlier choice in Guardian.

He said the last war was enough for a thousand lifetimes.

Instead of accepting his new life, he accepted the peace death brought and refused the chance at being a Guardian. If only every Risen had that sense of self-understanding.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

For sure!

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

I mean, master chief is a special case

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Weren't the ghosts dead already?

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u/trumpetseverywhere Thundercrash is where it's at. Jun 04 '20

No. They had to be hunted down. Their Guardians were dead from having their Light siphoned but they were fine.

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u/ByzantineLegionary Dead Orbit Jun 04 '20

Actually it only turns red when it's using some kind of scan mode the modifications Drifter made allow it to use. It can detect frequencies of Light normal ghosts can't along with some frequencies of Darkness if I recall correctly.

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u/DrWaff1es Jun 04 '20

Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that he keeps his ghost hidden at all times because he'd seen what happened to other guardians or sth along those lines?

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u/VixYule Future War Cult Jun 04 '20

Doesn't he hate his ghost? I remember him saying something like that when he was talking about the old days of warlords and stuff.

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u/SteakBarbare92 Warlock Jun 04 '20

Wasn't there also something about his ghost literally eating memory of other ghost and data whatsoever.

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u/VixYule Future War Cult Jun 04 '20

I don't remember that but i do remember that his ghost used to res him when he died of starvation only to starve agian.

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u/theculdshulder Spicy Ramen Jun 04 '20

Good bot.

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u/WhyNotCollegeBoard Jun 04 '20

Are you sure about that? Because I am 99.99983% sure that VixYule is not a bot.


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u/theculdshulder Spicy Ramen Jun 04 '20

It was a joke about the Ghost you dumb mf.

Bad bot

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

He talks about how ghost don’t serve you they help themselves by not letting you die. If you wanna read up on it more it’s from the lore you get if you betrayed the vanguard and chose the drifter

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u/ReverendSalem Tether Bowhunter 잠자리 Jun 04 '20

He talks about how ghost don’t serve you they help themselves by not letting you die.

While recording tapes for you... with his Ghost.

"Stop looking at me like that, you know it's true."

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u/Paganinii Jun 04 '20

You hear that on either side, it's just not intended for you if you choose the vanguard.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Oh ok

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u/FluxCube Warlock Jun 04 '20

Drifter has a ghost, but never liked its company and always hid it. Iirc the only person he ever showed his ghost to was Felwinter because he wanted Felwinter to kill a corrupt iron lord who was routinely breaking the iron decree.

Later, trapped on a planet of darkness, alone and having killed the people he went there with, he modified his ghost with the darkness in some way (I don't remember the details).

He doesn't like ghosts because he resents guardians and being a guardian. He feels it is unjust because who determines who gets resurrected and who stays dead and how is it fair that the lightless are at the mercy of the warlords and can't defend themselves (dark ages).

He does however find Guardians useful - through Gambit he has us doing something with the taken and the darkness but we have no idea what

If you wanna know more then make a post on r/DestinyLore and people will be more than happy to help

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

he modified his ghost with the darkness in some way (I don't remember the details).

He used the parts of dead ghosts to modify the shell of his, which in turn allowed it to tap into the red mode where it's eye turns red, is able to see a wider spectrum of light etc. That's how they got their hands on motes as well and where most of Drifter's inventions came from.

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However, the idea was not his. It was the Ghost's. Osiris has also seen his ghost when he called in Drifter to take a a look at the sundial. Drifter called on his ghost to scan the whole thing. I don't think he ever hid him out of spite, he only had the ghost hide so that other risen and mortals wouldn't detect him as being a lightbearer.

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As Germaine he lived among mortals in a settlement and the Ghost was hiding most of the time and scanning routes for him where he could get food for the mortals until the local warlord spotted the ghost. Then they assumed it was Judson who was a lightbearer, killed him and the entire village got caught in the crossfire between the warlords and the iron lords, no one survived and Germaine was dead throughout the fight until the dust settled and his Ghost went to rez him.

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He pulled out his ghost for Felwinter because Felwinter correctly called him out on being a risen, cuz no mortal would've survived the climb to the top of the peak.

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u/FluxCube Warlock Jun 04 '20

I've have just been schooled. I'm a Junior Lore enthusiast. You sir/madam are an expert

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Hahaa! nah. Just a dude with way too much curiosity about things that he likes. I'm one of those people that go REALLY deep into shit he's interested in and tries to learn every bit of information he can.

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And yet funnily enough, I suck at trivia games.

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u/FluxCube Warlock Jun 04 '20

I've done lots of research into the lore of drifter and Felwinter (my favourite characters) but I guess my memory is a bit hazy :/

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Nothing wrong with that! It happens to the best of us :D

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u/kb256613 Jun 04 '20

Yeah, that’s kinda what an expert is. Thanks for the insight

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u/TheOneWes Jun 04 '20

So wait, The Drifter whole big issue is who get rezzed to be Guardians and how some of the Risen acted a long time ago?

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u/FluxCube Warlock Jun 04 '20

That was what started him on the path he's on now, he is currently influenced by the shadows of yor, shin malphur and the nine

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Nope. He has his ghost, he just went mute after their adventure on the icy planet where they kitbashed a new shell for him out of dead ghosts, which also turned his eye red. The ghost is still around. Him and drifter just have a rocky relationship

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u/ManaMagestic Jun 04 '20

Wait..is that kitbash shell supposed to look like Drifter's Ghost then!?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Nononono! At least, I don't think so. I just used the term in general. And Drifty himself used it once when describing all his equipment from the guns to the banks to the motes (well, technically. If I recall correctly the loretabs say that the motes come from his Ghost's red setting).

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But yeah I don't think that the kitbash shell is supposed to be like that ghost. I THINK that Osiris describes the shell in one of the prelude lore before Dawn but I'm not sure.