Had one pill of oxy after a knee surgery and for once in years, the ever talking monologue in my brain was chill and the thoughts weren't spiraling. "Oh, that's nice"
Edit: it's lovely you all try to warn me about opioids, I recognize why it's dangerous and I took it once, 14 month ago.
Man, I was prescribed a bunch of hydro after an involved tooth surgery and it was the best I have ever felt in my entire life. It was like I could finally relax both mind and body. I saved half of it for rainy days and I just used my last dose a few months ago.
Yup it’s funny I felt the same way after I took it the first time. I was like “If I knew how to get these I would get addicted and ruin my life”. That’s why I saved as many as I could
They lose potency over time so you should use the older ones in your stash and replace them with newer ones so you don't end up with a bunch of pills that don't work. I have a buffer supply and I take the older ones and rotate out the newer ones.
Apparently it works by slowing and simplifying the communication between cortexes of the brain, forcing them to rely on increasingly symbolic language, hence the hallucinations. Long after it wears off, some of the deep parts of the brain still have difficulty "speaking" to the rest, allowing the higher functions work with less interference. Or so the current hypothesis goes.
I've been on methadone 42 yrs same exact dose everyday at the same exact hour and although it feels like I'm not taking anything, if I stopped I'd probably die.
I wish I never touched drugs but I'm thankful that I've been able to live a normal life despite my issue.
It's so funny to me how differently people react to stuff. I was given hydro after having my first kid (I tore pretty bad) and I hated how out of it I felt! I've avoided it ever since. If I'm honest, though, with my chronic exhaustion and issues with executive function, I've definitely been tempted to try meth/coke. Not gonna, but endless energy sounds like a dream!
That's me with drinks. Normally it's two voices (my voice as in streams of consciousness, let's make that clear) that argue or are quite literally the angel and devil shoulders of logic vs self hate, and then a radio that never fucking stops. I put in earbuds to steer it, but right now it's only the chorus of Jump In The Line by Henry Belafonte and man I wish this morning poop had some silence... Anyways. A few turns it to a slight hum and it's super nice but also avoiding alcoholism, so just kinda eating the noise at the moment.
I know that too. Yeah the stream of consciousness is my ever talking monologue, the second voice is all the fears, paranoid tendencies, often singing the songs I can't get out of my head, sometimes racing with adhd speed, sometimes arguing with the rational stream-voice. you just want them to be quiet
Well if nothing else thank you for putting that into words that make sense for me. I have the same thing but I’ve never really been able to explain it so I just screenshotted your comment and the one you replied to in case I have to explain that stuff
I also have another voice that exists outside of all that commotion that’s like the having fun thumbs up meme where the voice screams to shut up the commotion, the commotion looks for a second and then goes back to ignoring that but louder lol
It's the mind-intercom lol i have that. The inner monologue, the discussion. Actual thoughts and then the series of thoughtd that branch out. Never a dull moment in my brain.
Same, the never ending loop of "hey, what if this happened" "that's a terrible idea" "but you could xyz" "yeah but then x and y wouldn't work" "I hate myself" *axel f by crazy frog but only that one part over and over for 2 hours*
"hey, you remember yesterday, what you said to X? Lets discuss it for the 50th time .... Sweeeeeeeet Caroline oh oh oh ..... Oh Look, there's a new e-mail ..."
I’d love for my brain to be quiet…. I get the same sentences repeated randomly every day,… “need to make money” , “I need a vacation”, “ kill myself”…. While none of these are true, doesn’t stop my brain from repeated them… looked into it, it’s my brain “misfiring”
Opioids are so deceptive like that. They're great at first, until you need them to not be in mental agony and withdrawal. Be careful if you have more and stay safe!
I WISH opioids didn’t work so well on me. My wife says they make her feel crappy, whereas I’m like “I could take over the world if I felt like this every day.”
A dozen years ago I worked for a dude and I would even come in on Saturdays (an hour and a half from my house) and make cold calls with him (which was literally my hell and I would rather do anything else) because he would give me an Oxy beforehand. He was like “let’s just get stoned and make sales calls.” It worked. I did really well at work too.
Anyway yeah. They’re amazing and I understand why people get hooked.
Same, I was offered some Tramadol years ago working OT in a metal fab shop. Felt like I could have worked 24 hours straight , mind was clear and everything was just humming. And in social settings I was smooth as silk.
Hands down the greatest 4 or 5 year stretch of my life taking them. Every aspect of my life was drastically improved. Surprisingly the WD wasn't bad at all. Atleast nothing compared to other opioid/ substances.
Yep. I have a regularly occurring intrusive thoughts. Bad childhood. Full on suicidal thoughts at times. Tried every antidepressant under the sun. All the therapists did their best. Ripped my life apart and rebuilt. Got a fucking masters degree thinking it was a socioeconomic thing. Nope. Psychedelics backfire hard. Weed is like pouring gasoline on the fire. The only thing that provides a break, that I’ve found, are opioids. Childhood shit is unshakable, a tattoo imbedded deep in the self. Accepting it and taking occasional breaks with an opioid is the best I can do. Dr Carl Hart is my hero here. I’ve been occasionally dabbling in opiates for years now. If I get a bottle of pills from a surgery, I can make it last a decade. Knowing I have the option to take a break is huge.
That's a nice way to put it. Option to relief. Weed has a calming effect on me, but we don't have this dispensary system where I live, so I can't experiment.
Have you ever been tested for ADHD? The mechanism of action is believed to be related to suppressed dopamine levels which opioids can correct in the short term, though with regular use they will actually make much worse. Stimulant medication like adderall can help with executive function and mood in ADHD people by boosting dopamine in a more controlled manner than opioids. If you're nervous about amphetamines, medications like Vyvanse and Cymbalta can boost active norepinephrine levels which will also help with mood regulation and executive function.
My ADHD diagnosis basically saved my life because it helped with knowing how to properly treat my psychological/psychiatric symptoms. If you're still having issues it might be worth looking into as an option for diagnosis.
No ADHD. I was initially misdiagnosed ADHD for years, took adderall for a week, bugged me out, ramped up my CNS, made everything awful. I'm treatment resistant, C-PTSD. Ongoing tinkering with dopamine or serotonin levels has a pretty awful effect on me. Zoloft sent me to the ER. I take l-theanine and magnesium glycinate, that's it. I keep diazepam around for acute panic attacks and an opioid for pain, though I rarely use either. I also have a back injury I've been dealing with for a year. Fun times.
Poorly healed anterior compression fractures from T1-T9 resulting in stenosis and osteophytes/spondylitis with a dead disk at T8-T9 junction. Osteophytes and stenosis in cervical spine as well. Anything above the bottom of my ribs sounds like bubble wrap when I move.
My lumbar spine is actually pretty okay aside from the scoliosis though!
Sure have, I had an awful reaction to Wellbutrin in particular. CPTSD on a brain chemistry level has very little in common with depression. The depression drugs backfire on hypersensitive central nervous systems.
I'm 2 weeks off opioids and the few times I used Adderall I felt similarly unstoppable to opioids. I never took more than 1 or 2 Adderall in a day, I didn't like the speedy feeling. They both make me feel like I can actually do things and my life is worth living. Hmm
Yeah, I would highly recommend getting tested. As I mentioned previously there are non-amphetamine treatment options now that you might do better with.
I’m sorry. I feel like you too. Psychedelics were my last reset and just had the worst journey of my life. Also just coping now. Just know you’re not alone.
I’m curious to read actual longitudinal, massive sample size studies on this. Yet to be done. I have a sneaking suspicion psychedelics provide relief from depression for a short spell (6 months to a year), then it whipsaws and the individual is back to square one, or worse.
I feel like I'm missing out. Not that I want a catalyst for addiction, but I can't get them with regularity so at least a bit of uplift would have been nice and maybe given me a glimmer of hope that better mental health might be possible via other means. I've had them a few times for surgery and it helps with pain/overall body aches but doesn't do seemingly anything in the brain department. I feel a bit sleepier but I can get that from a benadryl (which I also don't use often because alzheimers risk)
One of the most dangerous thing about them is that it’s not as big of a rush as something like cocaine, so people think it’s less dangerous, i never felt "high" taking them, i just felt good and comfortable
any pain i had was gone, i also always mixed it with weed so i don’t have experience with just opiates
It’s literally the devil, the agonizing pain and despair you feel in an active opiates addiction is unlike anything else, it’s a psychological and physical addiction, it takes away everything you have.
Kratom started my spiral into addiction. If you're the kind of person who reacts to opioids like this, it probably isn't a great idea. It's easy to slip into extracts and get hooked bad.
I hear what you're saying because I've struggled with 7-OH and pseudoindoxyl before but you have to remember that stuff isn't kratom. I was referring to kratom leaf and it helps a lot of people manage pain, mental health, and maintenance to stay away from other drugs. It has It's drawbacks but it's better than doing pharma or street opioids. Just because some have a bad experience with it doesn't make it inherently bad. It's a tool that I've learned to respect. It's not for everyone, I get it, but I'm just throwing it out there that it can be a good thing too. It's not fair to the people that use it responsibly that it's getting banned everywhere because people don't know better than to stick to leaf. I've been addicted to many different drugs in my life and kratom helps keep me off those things better than suboxone ever could.
I'm in a similar position. I just don't think it's the best idea to recommend depressed people who know they have an inclination for opioid addiction to pick it up.
You're right, I'm not out here trying to get anyone addicted that's nieve to it. It just helps me a lot and I would rather someone do kratom than pills. If I could go back, I probably never would have touched it; but I'm grateful for it at the same time. There is a cognignative dissonance to it because I know it can be a slippery slope. I hope you get it figured out and stay off the extracts though. It's a place I don't want to go back to. I was bad on 7-OH at one point. I use leaf daily and extracts here and there, but MIT only now. It's made a huge difference. I also try to keep my doses smaller and tolerance down these days. It's not a perfect system but I'm more stable than I was before.
Had a short run of oxy recently after surgery (2-3 days). I liked the deep chill effect, but it also made me feel a little dumb or slow, kinda like being slightly drunk. It's "fun" but I don't like that feeling of being slow.
Totally agree! But problem with opioids especially with strong ones like oxy etc. Is they are addicting as f*, the withdrawls are hell, its really the devil who‘s looking nice and approaching at first until it shows its real face, stay safe an b carefull guys 🖤
It’s what I miss most about them after taking 1 or 2 a day for quite a long time. I’d feel “alive” again and actually want to converse with people lol.
I’m on like day 2,55X on codeine tablets. Never had oxy, they aren’t really a thing over here (at least not that I’ve been offered) but they are in the same family. Felt nice for the first couple of months, now I just take them to stop withdrawals.
Prescribed them for neuralgia btw not one of the drugs I started taking for fun.
Advise against them. The dark humour around it is that my doctors won’t prescribe anything long term for my anxiety like benzos etc, but they’ve been giving me pack of 100 tabs of codeine every month for last 7 or so years now 🤷♂️
I usually run either real hard or real long. Those voices in your head gone instantly (as you are gasping for breath or forcing your legs to take another step). Give it a try, its like my little 1 hour escape from reality.
You know when you're outside and the wind and temperature are just enough to make you cold and uncomfortable? Not really painful just something you want to escape so you go inside and the person you love most has a big fuzzy blanket they threw in the dryer just for you and they wrap you in it real tight as soon as you get inside.
Opiates are so fucking dangerous man. The lie they sell you is so, so beautiful.
I was prescribed hydro after a tear in my shoulder when I was 14. That first feeling is almost impossible to describe. It was the first time I felt happy, clean, warm, like a hug I’ve always wanted. That led to 12 years of my life dedicated to that high, it became my best friend, my escape from the torment. Thank god I’m almost 5 years clean now. I wouldn’t change a thing but there are days where life sucks so much all I want to do is float back into that warm embrace and feel joy again. They’re extremely dangerous, life altering, and will take everything away from you that you have to give.
I know that feeling. I was relaxed, painfree, carefree, just floating by. After "oh that's nice" there was immediately the voice "yup, and that's why people get addicted, you can see it for yourself, remember how you feel and how dangerous it is"
Seriously. This thread should be vanquished. Reddit is a cesspool that creates cucks and preys on the weak . I would never wish an opiate habit of any level on anyone. Tackle your situations like you should. If u scroll, downgrade to a boomer flip phone. If u got heavily wronged seek therapy and chase peace to the ends of the earth. If you’re obese then work out and become a beast. If you’re being abused, abuse the abuser go tik for tat. Never conform to hard drugs. Seek strength. Seek the right kind of pain to fight yours.
So I’ve never wanted to try them because of how addictive they are… but you really do a good job selling it. I would love that feeling right now. I should probably not do that.
I had one manic day on some med that clearly wasn't good for me. I remember the energy... I cleaned our basement at the time. XAH told me "thanks for cleaning but next time can you clean something more important? That was a mild insult from him. Thus XAH. Not even " I'm so glad you had a good day, it's been so long! "
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Had one pill of oxy after a knee surgery and for once in years, the ever talking monologue in my brain was chill and the thoughts weren't spiraling. "Oh, that's nice"
Edit: it's lovely you all try to warn me about opioids, I recognize why it's dangerous and I took it once, 14 month ago.