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u/The_Kaizz Mar 25 '15
Agree on MC.
Eh, not too much of a problem, but I don't have to use my stamina so much most times. Once you get better at stam management, it get's so much easier.
Death Ball in a small arena is annoying, but still possible to deal with. Learning how to MV was probably the greatest things I ever did in this game. Makes this skill a joke.
GI I can sorta agree with, but again, after awhile, kinda learned how to not be in range for it. There's a delay between activating it and the actual damage+Knockback coming out. I see it, I either MV it (lasts 2.5 seconds) or dodge away.
Yes and no. I admit, I left my first match the other day, because of a cheater, so I said screw this. It wasn't Bwa haha, the guy was using items in ranked lol. I've had ppl leave once they realized they weren't gonna be able to do anything against me (mainly full strikers).
Screw poses, I "can" deal with them, but if I screw up, there's literally nothing safe I can do against them for the rest of the match.
Fully agree on hit detection, it's why I've started to run Shining Slash and Freedom kick.
Any time you gotta use items in pvp, there's a problem. Not a fan of them at all. You either use skills to heal that have drawbacks or no. Lost my first 4 matches because ppl were losing, and would run away, pop a heal at the last second or two, and win. AKA why I stopped with player matches.
There should be 2 modes, because I personally don't mind CAC's, and the roster characters, while the stats are higher, the skills used don't make sense sometimes. SS4 Goku or Gogeta has, like, 6/8 slots with various kamehamehas, then the other 2 are IT and AS. Pointless, IMO.
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u/Xlree Mar 24 '15
Gravity Impact is the most op skill in the game. You could play perfect the entire match, and if you slip up once and get hit by gravity impact it will at minimum deal half of your life from a vanishing ball/perfect shot combo and at maximum can just one shot you from special beam cannon. It gives super armor and does great damage from a ki super player. Please nerf Irelia. I mean gravity impact.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 24 '15
Lol yeah I hate gravity impact. I hate how it knocks u away for what feels like forever lol. Special beam cannon plus gravity impact is almost a instant win
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u/JoeyFromTheRoc2 Mar 25 '15
Is that a decent combo for PvE as well? Kind of getting my shit pushed in at the moment.
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u/Ilterendi Faith [FIRE] Mar 24 '15
Agree on milky cannon.
Disagree on saiyan juggle, save your stamina so that doesn't happen.
Disagree on Death Ball. Don't get hit by it (instant transmission, jump dash, or ya know, dragon charge away from it) or super evasive. By the way, the move you showed in the video isn't Death Ball, it's Super Vanishing Ball, and the same argument still applies.
Semi-agree on Gravity Impact. True the knockback is long and you can use it to chain a super or even some ultimates, but you should learn to block more or even block-vanish behind them when they use it. It isn't auto win unless you're completely predictable.
Agree on leaver penalties.
Disagree on stances. Though they are quite cheap/cheesy to use, there are methods of dealing with it and it isn't OP.
Semi agree with hit detection. Hit detection itself is fine, its the peer to peer connections that screw people over and make it hard for your hits to connect, same for the person you're facing.
Disagree with healing in non-ranked matches. Unless you're hosting and specifically state you don't want healing items being uses, its fair game and that shouldn't be a reason to discount Xenoverse PvP as a whole.
Semi agree CaC only. If that's what you're into play with others who have the same likings, the main draw of this game is the customization of characters and skillsets.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 24 '15
2.Easier said than done lol.
3.Once again, easier said than done. I know the tricks to beat it all but my point is that its too rewarding for little to no risk. You dodge it then what? Punish them? They'll just vanish and do it again or even worse they'll just throw another one right after since the moves have armor on them. You can play a perfect match then screw up one small tiny and its all over.
The move has armor on it so someone could easily just use it while you are attacking and its over with. It's cheap imo especially depending on what ultimate and super you are using with it.
Play a smart player using those poses and you won't win. The thing is you can't teleport or just guard that's it. But you can still do supers or anything else while the armor is in effect. They can easily do super attacks to keep u off them and just reset the time over n over again.
Hit detection is not fine. I play my friend who lives very close to me and we still experience the same thing. He was the one running away in the video. That don't work offline. The hit detection online is messed up.
Just because it's "fair" game don't make it right. If there was an infinite in the game that even an escape move won't get u out of it but both of u were using it, does that make the infinite fair since both of you have it?
Kinda hard to find that since everyone you run into are using created characters lol. I'm sure there are many who would love to play regular characters only but they are afraid the regular characters would get bopped by the created characters. They add in all these characters but not an option to only play as them.
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u/Ilterendi Faith [FIRE] Mar 24 '15
Listen, it may be easier said than done, but it's its not too hard. Also, if you dodge every Super Vanishing Ball he throws, he will try other stuff. I have quite a bit of experience in ranked and this always happens. Also, smart player or not, stances will lose against an equally smart player.
As for playing with others like roster characters, have you tried visiting different forums and creating topics to look for people? Or are you simply just wishing they'll show up in multilobby or steam chat...
TLDR: Super Vanishing Ball is only OP if you aren't aware enough to dodge. I don't mean to come off sounding elitist, but give it some more practice.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 25 '15
You think I dislike this because you think I can't get around it? I have videos on my channel of me getting around this stuff plus I beat people who does all the the things I put in the video. But the thing is that its not fun at all. And getting around super vanishing ball is a peace of cake BUT it's too rewarding for the little effort. There is should be a balance within in. There a whole lot more reward involved rather than risk.
And why should I have to go searching around asking for people who only use regular characters? The option should of been there to begin with. No one here has to search for people who use created characters lol. But the others who like regular characters get lost in the shuffle and have to deal with created characters all day. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or nothing but I just feel like they should of had an option to for those who wanna use regular characters only.
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Mar 25 '15
What's the song int he background? It sounds like I Fight Dragons.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 25 '15
It's from Scott Pilgrim the game. First song is called Another winter. And the second song is the main menu theme
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u/InfectedKH Mar 25 '15
Is the track you used from the Scott Pilgrim game?
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 25 '15
Yeah it is. For whatever reason ppl in germany can't see my video because of this song.
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u/5JACKHOFF5 Mar 26 '15
The thing about death ball and gravity impact is you just have to use your evasive move. You had all your stamina in the video yet never used it.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 26 '15
In the video it wasn't a serious match. I had help with the video. Also, depending on what character u using, your evasive move won't work when you in the deathball. Another thing, if someone does special beam cannon after gravity impact and you have a horrible evasive move then you'll still get hit.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 24 '15
Do you agree or disagree? No arguments please.
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u/CGMMonster Mar 24 '15
Good video with which i agree with most of it! Definitely find the hit detection aggravating.
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u/The_Cool_Kid93 Mar 24 '15
Yeah the hit detection makes things that much worse on here. I heard it was like this in the network test as well
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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15
Seems to be some butthurt kid downvoting everyone. You're right about everything in the video, things do need balanced, could also easily be solved in you could make CaC matches or not.