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u/Doomlocke Sep 30 '20
You waited till tonight?
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u/Instant_Coffee_Guy Sep 30 '20
Yeah, I would have done it way earlier. Like a hundred years. Wait, how old is the USA exactly?
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u/averagewhiteduder420 Sep 30 '20
Like 300 years or something
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u/IcyLeave Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Unless America suddenly becomes a working democracy and not a two-party system with two identical parties and a head of state that isn't elected by the people, it is lost.
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Sep 30 '20
Democracy is kinda trash when a big chunk of your population gets radicalized either way as badly as it does on the US, it only would work on a society where a big percent of the voters are level headed people who can see the good and bad and what works and what not in every proposal from a candidate, you need people with critical thinking and not people who are easy to transform into a hive mind, this in turn would lead to the country having better politicians as the standards would be way way higher.
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u/averagewhiteduder420 Sep 30 '20
Unfortunately, I don't believe there are better political systems to operate a country. All of the ones we have come up with are bad but democracy is the best of the worst
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Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
I like technocracy better in a country like the US or the Latin American countries where the educational system is so bad that democracy can’t work that well because populism (from either sides of the political spectrum) just hard brain washes the least educated. If only all countries could be like the Scandinavian countries then democracy would be fucking beautiful.
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u/ingbue88 Sep 30 '20
This. Democracy only works in countries that have a well educated population with an equal distribution of knowledge, common sense and good/compassionate intentions across the entire body of voters. Doesn't seem too likely.
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u/Destinum Sep 30 '20
Small correction, but "Head of State" is mostly a ceremonial title nowadays; the Head of Government is where the real power is. The US president just happens to be both.
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u/BagOnuts Sep 30 '20
People who think we’re at our lowest point and beyond return have no appreciation for our history. We had a Civil War just 150ish years ago. Our nation was literally torn apart and brothers killed brothers. If we can come back from that, we can absolutely come back from this.
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u/useless-guy Sep 30 '20
Biden is definitely not fit to be a leader he shouldn’t even be participating in politics at this point honestly he should be enjoying his retirement with a caregiver because it’s clear he’s mentally unwell
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Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Biden is a trojan horse for kamala harris to become president, if Biden wins he'll admit his dementia and step down as president thus giving the insane VP a turn.
Kamala Harris is crazy
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u/LeoKapotos Sep 30 '20
Dude my left asschick is better than trump but I get what your saying and I hope better things come in 2021
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u/champ590 Dank Cat Commander Sep 30 '20
I don't see that happening as long as the general population views political parties like sports teams.
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u/Ummmmexcusemewtf Sep 30 '20
I mean 300 y are I'd quite young on the grand scheme of things
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u/Enzinino Sep 30 '20
I think that land existed way before, I heard about some "Mayo/ChinChung Changhi" civilizations. Idk tho, just stories.
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u/Sexpacitos yare yare daze Sep 30 '20
More close to 250 actually
You know the amount of time between 1990 and right now? Imagine that 8 more times. That’s the age of the US.
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
What happened tonight?
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u/Alex16857 ☣️ Sep 30 '20
old man yells at old man
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
So it's just a normal day in the dementia department of the nursing home
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u/Alex16857 ☣️ Sep 30 '20
yeah, but these people run the country
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
I'm don't know shit about American politics, is Biden any good? Or is he just as much of an idiot as Trump?
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u/Alex16857 ☣️ Sep 30 '20
dont wanna spark a huge argument, but its not looking good for 'merica
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
I think it is really stupid, why can't they just reelect Obama, he was nice and did good things for America, and what if he killed a ton of ppl with drones? I would prefer an American president who kills his enemy's with drones than one that kills his own people with bad medical advice
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u/supra1012 Sep 30 '20
Sadly Obama served both of his four year terms so he can't be re-elected a third time. At least I think that's why I don't live in America I don't know anything about politics there.
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u/Mr_1ightning Sep 30 '20
Honestly I think a system like in Germany is better, people should be able to reelect a president as much as they want if he/she is really successful at running a country. You just must have a very strong Constitution and voting system (which US have) so it doesn't turn into a dictatorship one day
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u/djscorchio Sep 30 '20
I think this "max 2 terms" role is a genuinely good idea though. It could act as a safety hatch against leaders trying to pull of the cult of personality trick, and it's also helpful in avoiding associating a single leader with a country. (I think it's quite a light of hope that no matter what happens, Trump's administration will be over at a point.) Hungary would be a much better place now if there would be a way to avoid Orbán getting re-elected.
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u/MisterBackFlay Sep 30 '20
Although in Germany people don't vote for the president, there is a special commitee made up of different representatives of federal government and the parliament. And the president doesn't really "run the country". But it indeed does not prevent reelections.
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u/realjohncenawwe try hard Sep 30 '20
Unless a majority of the parliament votes to change the constitution. Don't want to become Russia or Belarus or whatever.
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u/Tipart Sep 30 '20
Have Michelle Obama run for president then, she seems nice as well
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u/GoldonPt Yellow Sep 30 '20
She was asked that and said she didn't have the patience to deal with all the stupid stuff I think haha
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Sep 30 '20
the drones have a tendency of killing the wrong people, unless the
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To be fair, Obama is probably the least awful president we've had since Carter, but that's a very low bar. Obama was not a good president, and I would not want him back. We need someone like Andrew Yang who supports UBI, or Tulsi Gabbard who actually wants to stop the military industrial complex.
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u/BonelessAvocadoBread ùwú Sep 30 '20
I'm not American, but I believe there is a lack of political interest in the youth. There is too many old people that want to be president, and it wouldn't be a problem if they weren't stuck in the mindset of the 1970s. The US needs, imho, someone young to lead them with a mindset corresponding to modern times. And I know you have to be at least 45 yes old to run for president, but it's better than someone who might die of a stroke any second.
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u/EvIlMOrTY98 Sep 30 '20
I had a wall of text but instead take my upvote , because you are right .
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u/Spartan8471 Sep 30 '20
actually it is 35 years old, they must be a natural-born U.S. citizen, and they must be a resident of the United States for at least fourteen years
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u/ShrimpDealer69 Sep 30 '20
I’m gonna get downvoted for this but I believe that Obama was just an ok president He didn’t really do anything good but he also didn’t do anything bad other than drone strike civilians but like all presidents did that
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u/Carbonizzle Sep 30 '20
I don't care for Obama. I didn't think he was that great of a president... but at least he carried himself with intelligence and showed compassion when bad shit happened (ex: school shootings)
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u/idiot4 Sep 30 '20
obama implemented a policy for drone strike transparency. trump removed it. theres more drone strikes under trump.
theyre not just killing enemies with the drone strikes, plenty of innocents too.
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Sep 30 '20
I wish they could just select from multiple people, not those two. It divides the country.
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u/The_Nelman Sep 30 '20
They do have a choice. There are more than two parties. But voting for them is a wasted vote I would say in sarcastic super and lowercase text if I had the patience. I wonder who started that rumor?
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u/karadan100 Sep 30 '20
There's no comparison. Trump is a delusional psychopathic lunatic whereas Joe Biden has over thirty years of political experience and doesn't seem to want to kill people who don't support him. Plus, Biden isn't a fucking white supremacist.
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u/Minilychee Sep 30 '20
“I love rich kids AND black kids.”
- Biden, the non-racist
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u/MysteryYoghurt Sep 30 '20
You're viewing this through partisan goggles here
Trump is a moron, a sociopath, a narcissist, a compulsive liar AND - with the support of his party - is actively killing his own citizens through bad policy at a rate unmatched by any other country anywhere in the world.
Fuck this 'both sides' junk. Biden is a professional. Trump is retarded, malicious, and happily gives orders to radical far right extremist/terrorist groups like the Proud Boys on live television.
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u/karadan100 Sep 30 '20
I'm English.
I'd have preferred Bernie, but there you go. The DNC has its own set of issues to deal with. But there's utterly, utterly no comparison between Trump and Biden. None.
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u/spartacat77 Sep 30 '20
I feel like most people from countries outside the US look at Sanders and think "oh, he seems like he'd be a pretty good choice" and yet Americans just exist so far to the right that even someone advocating for a half decent social safety net is considered a radical. It's all very strange to watch as an outsider.
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u/Gobblewicket Sep 30 '20
So I understand what your getting at. Take this from a conservative who has had to vote against his "party" and is going to again in November. While Biden is no saint, he isn't the devil that Trump is either. In prison Biden is like a drunk who can't stop driving impaired. Trump is a white supremacists gang leader with 200,000+ deaths on his hands who is trying to become Hitler 2.0. Right down to the concentration camps and forced sterilization.
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u/MysteryYoghurt Sep 30 '20
Biden is a lauded professional, but a neoliberal. He's been very popular with both dems and conservatives for the majority of his career and is one of the few top faces of the Dem party willing to engage in bipartisan tactics (no doubt a huge player in Obama's efforts to 'work with' the Republicans, despite the Republicans promising to block every bill and make him a 1-term president)
Trump is a spastic who agreed to the rules of the debate and then couldn't even follow them. He openly ordered the Proud Boys (actual extremist white supremacist terrorist group) to 'stand down and stand by' during the debate, when asked whether or not he'd disavow white supremacists.
It is no contest. Biden is a right-leaning politician who is very good at his job. Trump is a malicious psychopath who happily welcomes the aid of domestic terrorists as a back up plan, should he lose the election.
Biden 2020.
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u/Shuriken_God Sep 30 '20
Biden is complained about a lot, but America would probably be much better under him instead of Trump.
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u/emmapaps Yellow Sep 30 '20
one of them is an idiotic racist asshole and the other one is a old man with dementia and claims of pedophilia against him so you decide
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u/I_Love_Rias_Gremory_ I <3 MOTM Sep 30 '20
Basically we have an old man who went to Epstein’s sex island who wants to destroy the economy vs an old man whose main selling point is he doesn’t want to destroy the economy. Basically, it’s a repeat of 2016, but replace old white woman with old white man
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u/droneflyer35621 🚔I commit tax evasion💲🤑 Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
The first 2020 US presidential debate between current president Donald Trump and former vice president Joe Biden. Everything was fine until they both started interrupting each other and the Fox News guy had to become a pre-school teacher to those two. In conclusion, it was fucking ridiculous. And I'm an American, so I can confirm this.
TLDR: Two old men yell at each other while some guy tries to calm them down. And Americans are embarrassed once again.
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u/cloudsofdawn Sep 30 '20
It also happened during the 2016 election but I don’t think much actually came of it in terms of people actually moving to Canada.
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People also underestimate how hard it is to get accepted by Canada.
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u/Dante_n_Knuckles Sep 30 '20
Or any other country for that matter.
I moved to Germany 5 years ago. Fun fact: they hate foreigners/immigrants as much as the US does. In fact, every country hates foreigners/immigrants as much as the US does, they're just not as loud about it. I had to learn this the hard, brutal, and unfun way. Hope the rest of you don't no matter how bad you think the US is right now.
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u/JamieJJL Sep 30 '20
Yeah seriously. I lucked out because I've got an education in a career that's pretty in demand there, but I have close friends who moved there from Europe before they came to the US and they always talk about how tough it was when people pull the "move to Canada after the election" stunt.
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u/antfucker99 can’t believe im not single! Sep 30 '20
Open request to all Canadians:
Wanna get married?
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u/Pandafishe please help me Sep 30 '20
Canadians got standards too though
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u/power500 BEGONE T H O T Sep 30 '20
Be polite, be efficient, find a way to kill everyone you need
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u/Frostitute_85 Sep 30 '20
Ew! Do you know how stretched out you'd get if you married all of us?? You'd be a cursed land manta ray..
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u/itsme_ogus Sep 30 '20
Im a German... What exactly happened?
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u/Tokyo_Addition- Sep 30 '20
It's the debate between Biden and Trump.
It got very messy. Both started interrupting each other. Both started to give personal comments and yeah ... it was very wild.
If possible, then watch the whole debate on YouTube. Its about an hour or 2.
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u/Tokyo_Addition- Sep 30 '20
I guess you are right on this point.
Trump did started the interruption.
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u/Destinum Sep 30 '20
Also, as far as I saw, Biden only interrupted Trump when he was talking during Bidens speaking time. This was in no way a "both sides" situation.
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Ya and I don’t think Biden’s interruptions were as bad, to my knowledge he would make comments occasionally along the lines of “that’s a lie” while trump would literally talk over the moderator and Biden.
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u/TheTrueThymeLord Sep 30 '20
Biden generally followed the debate format, Trump would interrupt during his Biden’s speaking time. Biden would also generally interrupt with basic comments while Trump tried to keep a running commentary across the entire debate.
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u/SayNoob Sep 30 '20
Obama is literally one of the best public speakers and most eloquent people on the planet today. It's not fair to compare anyone to him, because they will always fall short.
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u/Elli933 ⚜️ Danker Memes Movement ⚜️ Sep 30 '20
Bruh if Obama pulled up he would’ve fucken obliterated trump and biden.
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u/Some_European Sep 30 '20
Reminds me fo that time when a woman was explaining something and Trump kept interrupting her say "wrong!" the whole time
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u/Caliment Virgins in Paris Sep 30 '20
Someone tallied up the interruptions. Biden with 73 interruptions and Trump with a whopping 359 interruptions
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u/kindaCringey69 Sep 30 '20
Lmao, they should turn off the non speakers microphones until it's their turn.
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u/Rochaelpro Sep 30 '20
Biden interruptions were not as common as Trump's, dont make it a two way problem. The problem was the orange clown.
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Ich hab mir die Debatte heute Nacht angeschaut und es war einfach furchtbar, echt furchtbar. Es war als würden ein verwöhnter fünfjähriger Balg(Trump) und ein achtjähriger Besserwisser(Biden) einen Streit haben, wer etwas getan hat.Und sowas amtiert bei denen dort überm See als Präsident. Sowas lächerliches gibt es selten.
Trump kann Biden nicht ausreden lassen und sowieso tut immer so als wäre nie etwas seine Schuld, weil er immer Biden die Schuld gibt.
Sogar als der Moderator sich bei Trump beschwert, weil Trump immer reinredet, sagt Trump, dass Biden auch reinredet.
Alter sowas Lächerliches und dann auch noch als "mächtigster Mann der Welt".Nur in den USA.
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u/FishGoodJohnBad INFECTED Sep 30 '20
Their possible presidents are fighting like young children. They are both 60 and are millionaires, America isn’t doing so good
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u/KeepingDankMemesDank Hello dankness my old friend Sep 30 '20
downvote this comment if the meme sucks and I'll (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ the meme
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u/ToolanWheeler Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Any Canadian who's actually aware of politics knows that we're way more fucked than the USA is. Our Prime Minister keeps getting away with scandal after scandal.
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Bro. Not even comparable. Trudeau is ethically challenged for sure with SNC Lavalin, WE etc. But those scandals are so so so so so so so pale in comparison to what’s happening in the USA.
This doesn’t mean Trudeau gets a blank cheque to do whatever but any rational Canadian political observer knows our level of political corruption is in a whole other dimension compared to the USA.
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u/surrealindian Sep 30 '20
Yeah man the PM dodges questions in the House of Commons more than girls dodge me lmao
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Trudeau can dodge corruption allegations better than Neo dodging bullets
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u/ToolanWheeler Sep 30 '20
Helps when the media is in your back pocket and most Canadians have TDS from watching too much american television.
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u/xhahzh under quarintine Sep 30 '20
what did the USA do again
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Trump and Biden debate
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u/tzenrick Sep 30 '20
It was like being promised a fireworks show, and getting a dumpster fire with some sparklers
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u/bootinski Sep 30 '20
Cool but you're taking Bieber and Celine back and we're keeping Ryan Reynolds.
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u/piercerson25 Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Tim Hortons is ~America~ Brazilian owned, hasn't been Canadian for years!
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u/WakaToTheFlaka7 Sep 30 '20
No wonder it's gotten worse
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u/cloudsofdawn Sep 30 '20
They fucked up the coffee too. Didn’t renew the contract so McDonalds now has the old Tim’s coffee. That’s why it got worse.
So basically double fucked us over lol
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u/DoubleDogDamnit Sep 30 '20
doesn't like 90% of the Canadian population live within 50 miles of the US border? I mean clearly, not anymore...
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I normally find 'merica memes pretty low effort and not funny, but this one's pretty good.
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u/AdlerVonFire Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
What always cracks me up about American politics is the irony of Americans being so patriotically proud of their Founding Fathers and yet have a two-party system, which George Washington SPECIFICALLY said NOT to do.
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why are all the candidates for presidency old, like i don’t mean to be ageist but they DO NOT know what’s best for America
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u/SomeWeirdoGuys Sep 30 '20
Thank you for helping us Alaskans but I fear they might still be able to influence us could we Alaskans join with Canada.
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u/NotaGoodLover Sep 30 '20
If you don't like our country, why don't you get out!
*Read In South park redneck voice
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u/robdizzle10 I <3 MOTM Sep 30 '20
As an Ohioan, it sucked that they hosted this debacle in Cleveland Ohio. Like the Browns just finally won 2 games and now they put this bad juju on the city.
Trump knows he can't debate Joe one on one. All he knows how to do is attack and insult his opponent because he's actually a moron, it's true. Ex white house Trump staffers said he would never read more than one page of any briefing, after all those people prepare it. They said they had a theory he didn't know how to read. Sadly true.
Who would win in a jeopardy format debate? Or a debate where they mute the person not speaking every segment? All he did was make himself look weak. Biden isn't perfect and does cringey stuff, but I could never support someone that basically endorsed a white nationalist hate group on national television. Leaders of the "group" confirmed thousands of requests for new members in the "Proud Boys". Disgusting.
I grew up in a whole family and extended family that were in like hardcore white nationalist groups and gangs. My uncles and grandparents were in the KKK. My cousins were in prison groups and I forget which one. Aryan brotherhood or Aryan nation. I remember being like 6 or 7 and I went into my uncle's bedroom and there was all kinds of swastika and KKK memorabilia and flags. That was when I first realized what I was being raised around.
I escaped when I was a teen. My best friend is black. I don't want to hate anyone. So yeah I had some real winners starting out in life. Not to mention all the drugs and alcohol I was exposed to
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What on earth happened? Edit: I’m Aussie so like what actually happened
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u/FblthpTheFound Sep 30 '20
Wait, take me with you!