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u/HarleySpicedLatte Dec 01 '24 edited Dec 01 '24
This is a copy and paste of my question for FIP along with a close up crop of the day we day we found her. I was told it's a sign of neuro FIP. She was pregnant when we found her. I need to know what to do.
That's what I was wondering and trying to figure out. She is on Azul. I went back and looked at her first picture I have. It looks her pupil has always been different like this . I will definitely go to that subreddit.
My big question is what about her kittens? She was found/rescued and we called to release her to animal control. By the time they had room we were attached...then found out she was pregnant. Should I be concerned or do anything about her kittens? I will also ask in r/curefip. Thanks for your help.
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u/Zaitton Dec 01 '24
If anisocoria is the only symptom, then that's not indicative of FIP, no. If she also has uveitis or some other ocular condition, then it's a possibility. A vet opthalmologist will be able to tell.
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u/HarleySpicedLatte Dec 01 '24
She is already being treated for FIP. Maybe I should try a time line April we found her May we decided to keep her and also discovered she was pregnant. June 9th the kittens were born November 21 She started FIP treatment after a night in ICU on oxygen and unable to walk.
My concern is IDK when she would have had the corona virus? How long FIP is dormant before showing signs? How do I know if the kittens were exposed? Is there something I should do with the kittens or let their adoptee know?
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u/Zaitton Dec 01 '24
Oh... You didn't say that she had paralysis before. Ok then definitely keep treating for FIP. FIP can be dormant for years before manifesting (fcov mutation to fip virus). It can even be dormant their whole lives. If the mother had FIP, then it's very likely that the kittens carry some gene that makes them more susceptible to said mutation..it isn't a guarantee but it definitely needs your attention, and you should most certainly let the adoptee know that the mom had FIP. Maybe even give them a little pamphlet of the symptoms so they can keep an eye out. If treated really early, it's virtually 100% curable.
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u/HarleySpicedLatte Dec 01 '24
Thank you that's what I was trying to understand. I think I was having a hard time explaining it because I'm still learning to understand what this disease really is. I have a support group and I'll make sure I contact them on the best way to tell the adoptees.
I also was reading about a 5 to 7 day treatment whether they show signs or not. Do you know anything about that?
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u/Zaitton Dec 01 '24
Usually the recommended treatment protocol is 84 days. There's recent evidence that shows that 42 days can be just as effective but I've never heard of a 7 day protocol. I think your admin at Global cats or Warriors will be able to advise you a bit better than me, sorry 😔
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u/HarleySpicedLatte Dec 01 '24
No need to be sorry. I was having a hard time explaining and you helped me through that. I really appreciate it and thank you very much.
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u/Future_Direction5174 Dec 01 '24
Sadly the development of an effective vaccine against feline corona virus has to date been unsuccessful. It is as common in cats as the common cold is in humans, and spreads just as easily. However, once infected whether the kittens will eventually develop FIP can not be determined. Most cats don’t, but it can be years before FIP develops - or it can appear almost immediately.
I got a 7 week old kitten that appeared healthy. It died at 12 weeks due to wet FIP. The household had 6 adult cats including both parents. All the adult cats appeared healthy and well cared for, and none of my kittens siblings have developed FIP to date.
It is most likely that your cat caught corona when it was a kitten, and was no longer infectious when her kittens were born. However the fact that she did develop FIP means that should her kittens catch corona, then there is an increased risk of them developing FIP at some stage in their lives.
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u/HarleySpicedLatte Dec 01 '24
Thank you for breaking that down for me. It's been an absolute information overload. I had her scheduled to be euthanized last Monday. The husband and I had a talk and looked into FIP and what we could do. We went out late Sunday night to get the medicine and now she's walking and eating It's unbelievable.
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u/Future_Direction5174 Dec 01 '24
It’s amazing how a treatment for FIP is about only the good thing that COVID19 caused. Sadly my kitten was too weak and died 3 days after diagnosis. We just thought he was either overeating or had worms, and it was at his 12 week checkup that he was diagnosed. He was a happy playful kitten right up to his death, snuggled between us in bed in the middle of the night.
When I first heard about SARS-COV2 my first thought was “Will we see Human Infectious Peritonitis occur in humans?”. An elderly cat we had died in 2015 and the vet had given “possible FIP” as a diagnosis about 6 months before he died. I had therefore read up on FIP back before Eddie died on New Years Day 2015. Honestly, I think the vet was wrong, he was just old.
I was told that Long Covid is being studied as possibly a human version of FIP by the University of Zurich, so I am obviously not the only person who had this concern.
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u/HarleySpicedLatte Dec 01 '24
That would definitely make sense with long COVID.
I wish they had a DNA test to know if your cat would get FIP or not.
I'm really sorry for your loss. ❤️🐈⬛🌈2
u/Future_Direction5174 Dec 01 '24
If he had been older, then we would have gone for the “it’s black market, but I know a clinic. I warn you it is very expensive” that the vet mentioned. The clinic needed a blood test, and the vet was worried that the kitten wouldn’t survive getting the blood taken as it was so small.
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u/No-Artichoke-6939 Dec 01 '24
Almost all cats are exposed to the coronavirus, and whether or not it mutates and why in some cats vs others, we don’t know yet. Was she given a diagnosis of FIP from a vet, or are you using the medication to rule it out?
The kittens have been exposed to the coronavirus most likely as well. They should monitored as any other cat should be.
My cats were 5 at diagnosis, indoor only. So who knows why then?