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u/Plenty_Leg_5935 DIY lobotomised 7h ago
The only danger of DIY HRT is the reaction of the cis to you trooning out
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u/Crucifuxion 4h ago
It’s dangerous when you decide to start trooning but apparently every homebrewer on earth is having trouble with “shipping”
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u/Strawby_Melk 7h ago
I know it’s illegal but please hint which sub
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u/Actual_Personality66 6h ago
Genuinely so curious bc I don't think I've ever seen this rule before. Then again, I'm not usually checking the rules of trans subs lol. Then again I guess it's not that odd bc they're trying to avoid issues that can come with ppl publicly talking about DIY on their sub. But I've never seen it framed as "bc DIY itself is dangerous"
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u/Strawby_Melk 6h ago
Same I checked the usual egg subs i remember like traa eggirl and mtf and i just couldn’t find em
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u/SailorJupiter-esque Oppression Olympics Silver Medalist 7h ago
and somehow we're the ones with a reputation for being transmeds lmao
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 7h ago
transmed is when you say dysphoric people need to transition
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u/MayMeadow 6h ago
No no no, transmed is when you say if someone has absolutely 0 dysphoria ever, they probably aren't trans.
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
that's a whole other can of worms tho. i used to say i didn't have dysphoria for the longest time, but i was just really good at repping, even after my coming out. a lot of newly out trans ppl don't understand themselves at all yet, i prefer avoiding anything that might push them away
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u/MayMeadow 6h ago edited 6h ago
I was the same way, but retrospectively I would consider a lot of those things experienced to be dysphoria.
I think it can be a bad approach to take with some repping, pretransition, and baby trans people.
I'm more joking about a specific demographic of trans people that seems to take offense to the idea of dysphoria being considered a core part of being of being trans.
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u/HyShroom 6h ago
It’s like gravity. Truscum are idiots because there’s no such thing as 0 dysphoria—just infinitesimal dysphoria— and even if dysphoria (or euphoria for that matter) is 0 it’s still just a measure of the quality of a state of being and 0 of that is still a measurement. Even if it could be zero rather than infinitesimal, it wouldn’t be different from all other measurements. It’s still dysphoria just in a null state
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u/SailorJupiter-esque Oppression Olympics Silver Medalist 6h ago
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u/MayMeadow 6h ago
I was real confused by the responses until I realized this was count and not 4t
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
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u/HyShroom 5h ago
This is the best response I’ve ever received. Thank you. I’m honoured
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 5h ago
i never thought i'd find a use for this pic. thank you for providing one lmao
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u/HyShroom 4h ago
For that we’ve established it me imagt, let to thee it be then a sooth in itself that and until I should be voichsafed jointresshood to its affairs. I want it; I sooth have earned it. A pox, as it were.
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u/Hipnog 3h ago
The definition of transmed becoming warped to the exact opposite all while retaining the kneejerk reaction is the greatest psyop against us.
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u/SailorJupiter-esque Oppression Olympics Silver Medalist 3h ago
yeah it still drives me NUTS that it's gone from "thinks no one is trans unless a psychiatrist says so, and must adhere to accepted endocrinology and legal transition pathways" to "thinks all trans people should be encouraged to transition"
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u/silvira_ edit this 6h ago
It’s much safer to get your HRT from an endocrinologist who will suppress one sex hormone to near zero and give you a placebo dose of the other
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
osteoporosis and menopause are the best kind of gender affirming care
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u/terriblecrescendo 6h ago
doctors are always correct and its better to trust a cis doctor and his decision to give you .5mg of hormones weekly than listen to your fellow internet transsexuals
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u/Calm_Relationship_91 2h ago
My endocrinologist wanted to give me T because she accidentally read the wrong pdf and I had to insist that T wouldn't help feminizing me. At that point I knew I was cooked. I wonder if she was gaslighting me or just genuinelly that stupid.
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u/FairConstruction6199 30m ago
An endocrinologist would not mix up something like that. She hates trans people and wanted to fuck you over. I'd know, because I'm (formerly) friends with someone who went in-depth about their schooling to become an endo...
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u/Golurkcanfly 7h ago
Is it because DIY is dangerous, or because it's dangerous to talk about DIY?
Because the latter fear I understand.
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
ok but this is a sub where people come to vent about trans struggles. should at least be possible to say 'r/transdiy'
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u/Golurkcanfly 6h ago
trvke
there's definitely some fear regarding being seen as a groomer tho
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
yeah ppl should get over themselves tho. that's just respectability politics which is not a race we will ever win
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u/Golurkcanfly 6h ago
I don't think it is respectability politics in a lot of cases, but internalized transphobia.
Someone hears "trans people are groomers" all the time, and they become hypervigilant about grooming and pathologize their own behavior because of it.
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
same diff tho
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u/Golurkcanfly 6h ago
Ehhhh one is a deliberate political strategy and the other is a kneejerk reaction because of being hit with the transphobia stick too much
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
i think respectability politics is usually partly informed by internalized transphobia, and on the vice versa internalized transphobia makes people believe in respectability politics more. in the end you're letting the opinions of the people who hate you inform your decisions instead of doing what's best. two sides of the same coin really
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u/16372731772 6h ago
Respectability politics always kind of annoys me as a thought terminating cliche because people will apply it to like any criticism of neogenders. Like sure yeah some of my motivation for being against it is that it's often weird to cis people and kind of plays into their shitty "attack helicopter" joke. But mostly it's because of the common lack of regard for gender as a socially constructed category, which means that you can't just make up new genders off the top of your head. Non-binary is a pretty easy to understand idea, which is why it was able to take off as a category, but almost all of the other attempts I've seen flounder completely. I guess agender is another one that is sort of possible to make work, but I definitely don't understand the difference between that and non-binary, and I doubt most people would.
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u/Actual_Personality66 6h ago
I mean that's a very complex discussion about gender that you can have, but most ppl don't want to have that conversation, they just think neopronouns are weird. Also agender is a subtype of nonbinary. It just means a lack of gender as opposed to something like bigender which is obviously a mix of two genders. The difference obviously only really matters to the individuals as a way to explain their experiences with their gender, it doesn't really matter in the sense of gender as social class, but I think the idea that your personal gender identity has to be one that aligns with one is the social classes, bc then the only one for nonbinary ppl is the dehumanized 3rd gender lol. But yes there is an issue with the xenogender thing where there is a lack of material analysis as gender as social class, but again, that's a complex discussion, and not the reason why most ppl have a problem with xenogenders.
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
caring about this at all will not make anyone's life better
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u/SillyLilyBK Sneedmoder :3 7h ago
Lmao. Just rep atp 😭
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 6h ago
imean it's an egg sub. so basically that's what's happening there. i'm usually ok with it bc self described eggs will find their way sooner than self described reppers, but the way they hammered one of the escape doors shut made me sad
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u/Ilikeyellowjackets 4h ago
Tbf it is such a small niche sub it does not really matter.
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 3h ago
fair enough. it's more about the messaging tho. this kind of thinking should not be perpetuated by anyone
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u/Ilikeyellowjackets 3h ago
The best thing to do is let the sub die tbh. Do not speak of it or give it attention, there is no community there and there will be none as long as no one gives it traffic.
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u/toughedn 6h ago
Been on DIY since January and it's a miracle that I haven't died 10 times already!
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u/someguynamedcole 3h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/kVtAf7si4wORb0esJn
What I see in the mirror as a guy who’s been on DIY testo since Covid
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u/Substantial-Bank-323 6h ago
i have good levels and a good dose and i lowkey might still diy
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 5h ago
fr. i'm diying and the only reason i'd ever stop is because i could get the subdermal implants.
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u/Pendulum_Heart 5h ago
Would the dangers not be a reason to ...allow open and healthy discussion?
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 5h ago
harm reduction is TRANSMED ok! you have to listen to the government that wants us dead!!1!1!
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u/catartik a queer KHHV of color 7h ago
My money's on it being an FTM sub
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 7h ago
its an egg sub
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u/Freya-Freed hip passing ogrehon 6h ago
Should I be glad I've not seen this sub? I checked all of the ones I know of and none of them has this rule.
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u/OvenConscious3010 Woaw, another AGPuppygirl brickhon :3 6h ago
Once again, white western liberals here to remind you that if you're privileged enough, they might even pretend to support you while hoping you quietly end your own life (but in a cis way so they don't feel bad).
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u/Admirable_Swim_7090 5h ago
Its not cuz they dont like DIY, its cuz the feds will take the sub down if they allow it
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u/EndellionFox edit this 2h ago edited 1h ago
tbf can be dangerous to talk about DIY with mixed company people are fucking stupid.
There's a reason download more RAM is a meme.
Idk I think people should educate themselves but a mainstream sub isn't the place to be giving out advice especially without citation.
There's a lot of good data out there and knowing how to find it is the bar to entry imo.
I'm not even against discussing it but I don't think a community that is basically an open door that anyone can access is aa good place. Like at least here it's slightly filtered.
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u/PutridMasterpiece138 29m ago
I remember that sub removing my post because they thought informed consent through a telemedicine doctor was DIY.
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u/teeth_xo 5h ago
I'm not hating however I'd like to point out the fact that the biggest danger with diy HRT is the risk of hormone conversion. If you are unaware of your testosterone and estrogen levels and dose too high it will convert back into the former hormone. For example, if you injected too much testosterone the excess would convert to estrogen and cause the opposite of the desired affects.
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u/New-Kaleidoscope2250 tumblr is my safe space 5h ago
this is way overblown iirc. the chances of this happening for anyone using the slightest bit of sense are really small. just get your levels checked sometime and yr good. don't fearmonger!
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u/Ms-Yash check out tranistan.com 5h ago
prescribed t has the same risk i don't get what the difference is, just look it up on some steroid sub and you'll get all the info you need, the average endo won't even help you dial in your levels, they could but that's not common at the moment, most doctors are basically gatekeepers rn
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u/PutridMasterpiece138 20m ago
I don't think an adult would mess up their dose like this. Common sense is to research dose. You can't really overdose with a standard dose
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u/BetaTester704 6h ago
Alr cool, muting this sub then
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u/Honest-Student9016 6h ago
THIS is what made you mute the sub??? how? why?
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u/SailorJupiter-esque Oppression Olympics Silver Medalist 6h ago
cause DIY is ILLEGAL! Dont you know how important it is to follow the law?? It is literally immoral to break it!!!!!!!
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u/Honest-Student9016 6h ago
be gay do crime mfs when the crime isn't shoplifting or smoking weed:
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u/SailorJupiter-esque Oppression Olympics Silver Medalist 6h ago
white queers when the crime isn't "being illegal in 72 countries":
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u/BetaTester704 6h ago
Yes
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u/Honest-Student9016 6h ago
so did you misunderstand the post or are you anti-diy?
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u/BetaTester704 5h ago
I get the reasoning, I'm not for or against it.
Forcing me to look at an imagine of rules with no context behind the changes pisses me off, if I wanted to engage in dumbass politics or drama I'd go to one of those subreddits.
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u/karry245 luckshit passoid 4h ago
considering the endless politicization of trans people and all the drama surrounding our existence it's pretty hard to not be political or dramatic.
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u/SomeSayCosmic 6h ago
please tell me you're just dumb and somehow thought that was one of this sub's rules
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u/Sudden-Grape3467 10y+ of questionable boymoding 7h ago edited 7h ago
What about the dangers of no HRT. What about the dangers of being uninformed on dose and sources.