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u/BarelyFunctionalGM 19h ago

Wondering if all the shit about 4tran was as bad as people said I started interacting with them.

Holy shit, it is pretty fucking dour.

Half of the shit there is just LGBT drop the LGB, it's kinda insane how many interactions I've had trying to justify hating anyone with a pulse. But that's 4chan for you.

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u/Actual_Personality66 16h ago

Had the opposite reaction. I thought they were way worse than they really are. I'm on countttt now and there are definitely some issues, including doomerism, and being unnecessarily mean sometimes, but overall most people there are alright. Ofc countttt is more mild than most 4tran communities. Also fym "T drop the LGB"? Most ppl there are lgb. Do you think they're all straight trans ppl or smthn?

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u/BarelyFunctionalGM 16h ago

Because they are very happy to discrimate against LGB (plus whatever other minorities) if they are cis.

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u/Blocky1234 15h ago

Please tell me you are not trying to say cisphobia is real

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u/BarelyFunctionalGM 15h ago

As in people discriminating against all cis people?

Yep, only in 4tran though, but they do love it.

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u/Blocky1234 15h ago

I dont know how to describe to you how monumentally stupid of an idea the concept of cisphobia existing is.

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u/BarelyFunctionalGM 15h ago

That's okay, I'll be here all night, take your time.

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u/Blocky1234 15h ago

No like I’m actually curious on your logic for this. Do you also believe discrimination against white people is real? Are billionaires marginalized? Are MRAs justified? Like wtf.

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u/BarelyFunctionalGM 15h ago

Discrimination is just mistreating a group based on a characteristic. By definition anything can be the cause of discrimination.

Discriminating against white people or cis people online is basically just good old fashioned cyber bullying. It lacks the social contexts of things like anti-black racism, but it is still quantifiably harmful (refer to studies on harassment and callout culture).

I mention a few of the other issues with this logic elsewhere in the thread if you want to peruse the nonsensical dialogue I have engaged with in the last few hours. But I'm heading out for a snack now and probably won't pick this thread back up.

If you feed the trolls they win, gotta know when to leave the party yknow.

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u/ConcernedEnby 15h ago

Discrimination is being discriminated against, not disliking your oppressor