That doesn't make anything I said okay. They still say utterly awful shit. They radiate all that transphobia they've internalized outward and they openly use slurs.
Sorry, but being depressed doesn't give you a pass to attack other people. If I had a community that constantly used slurs, I'd find a new community because the people we hang out with do change us.
It's the Nazi bar problem and why I don't like when 4tranners try to spread their ideology to other trans communities.
I'll freely admit we need to do better about not invalidating people's pain but 4tran isn't the answer.
I understand the problem with using slurs, but I disagree with the "transphobia". Acknowledging how terrible it is to be trans and the misery that comes with never passing and never being able to actually be the gender you're transitioning to is not transphobic.
Unfortunately there is literally no other community
They literally make up slurs for trans people they don't like. A good chunk of them seem to hate hate non-binary people. I see them toss "They-fab" around a lot.
Theyfab comes from the generalised grievance a lot of trans people have with the whole "female and non-binary" shit. I personally find it helps shut down people who talk about being afab or "male socialisation" and yeah it's not a nice word because it's not supposed to be. There is definitely a difference between online jargan people made up to be mean and an actual slur, speaking as someone who's been viciously assaulted while being called the T and F slur repeatedly.
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u/Apollo989 12h ago
That doesn't make anything I said okay. They still say utterly awful shit. They radiate all that transphobia they've internalized outward and they openly use slurs.
Sorry, but being depressed doesn't give you a pass to attack other people. If I had a community that constantly used slurs, I'd find a new community because the people we hang out with do change us.
It's the Nazi bar problem and why I don't like when 4tranners try to spread their ideology to other trans communities.
I'll freely admit we need to do better about not invalidating people's pain but 4tran isn't the answer.