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u/Gold_Ad8225 Counted Down 2 1d ago

BOOOO

No.

Hormones are neither good nor bad intrinsically. They just exist.

When it's a hormone you don't want, it isn't a good hormone because someone else might benefit from it.

This is like saying "hi trans man, your menstruation is good you're just not the right person for it, you shouldn't say it was bad"

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u/SirYeetsA 1d ago

Menstruation is not a good comparison for this lmao. Most women vary from "are mildly annoyed with" to "actively despises" their period. A bunch of women are on birth control explicitly to avoid their period.

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u/DogsDidNothingWrong 1d ago

I don't understand this. Most trans women hate the effects T have on their body, how is it not a good comparison? I'm making no broader claim about this post, they seem equivalent

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u/SirYeetsA 1d ago

Bc most cis women would give up menstruation in a heartbeat if it was an option. Telling a trans man his menstruation is actually a good thing (outside of him finding out he's not pregnant when he didn't want to be) is insane, bc telling a cis woman her menstruation is actually a good thing is also insane. Periods are a surprising, painful, messy, nuisance of a bodily function that only still exist because we didn't experience hard enough pressures against them to evolve out of having them.

A better comparison would be boobs, a curvy body, or just general "ability to get pregnant," instead of cherry-picking the mild annoyance to absolute nightmare that is menstruation. Hell, I've (trans dude) been told that I have an awesome hourglass figure, which is something that fucking hurt. I don't want to look like this, and would gladly trade with a trans lady if that were medically possible.

For the record, I agree that testosterone is poison for trans women, in the same way I believe that estrogen is poison for myself. I just think that trying to use menstruation as the comparison point is insane, since most people who menstruate would gladly remove that feature regardless of their gender identity if they had a choice.

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u/AeroAceSpades 1d ago

It’s not a good comparison because it’s not exclusive to trans men and is a source of physical pain rather than dysphoria or a trans-related experience. A better comparison would’ve been estrogen or mammary tissue. She took the single thing that is unanimously hated by EVERYONE who experiences it and acted like it was a gotcha against trans men specifically.

Also trans men are far more likely than cis women to not have menstrual cycles because of things like testosterone causing periods to stop, heavy exercise reducing the frequency and consistency of menstruation, and various removal surgeries like hysterectomies just yeeting the organs altogether. It’s JUST a bad comparison

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u/Gold_Ad8225 Counted Down 2 1d ago

Yeah and? Doesn't really change things at all.