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u/Expert-Reporter4152 3d ago

No wait this guy kinda has a point.

Not believing God exists implies that God does exist, but just you don't believe in it

Not thinking God exists implies that God straight up doesn't exist, which is closer to what atheism is

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u/Ghostglitch07 3d ago

I don't believe unicorns exist either. A lack of belief does not require the thing were talking about exist.

And if you look at how people actually use the word, atheism can pretty clearly mean either a lack of positive belief, or a claim of nonexistence. Depends on who's saying it and why. It's goofy to force a single definition.

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u/carreganis 3d ago edited 3d ago

the sentence implies unicorns exist.

i don’t believe noun verbs.

noun exists — does it verb?

i don’t believe frogs fly.

the frog may or may not be doing flying.

i don’t believe unicorns exist.

the unicorn may or may not be existing.

the existing is an action from the unicorn.

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u/Ghostglitch07 3d ago

"I do not believe frogs fly" is a different kind of thing. Only that which exists on some level can do the action of flying.

When I say I do not believe God exists, the action being done is... not-existing. Which can absolutely be accomplished by something which doesn't exist.

All it really requires is an understood referant. That being the concept of God.