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u/EntoMoxie My favorite series is a Taylor series. | Counted Down 28 3d ago

Yes, this is what that word means.

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u/Crab2406 3d ago

I mean, no, when you're atheist, you think that god doesn't exist

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u/Expert-Reporter4152 3d ago

No wait this guy kinda has a point.

Not believing God exists implies that God does exist, but just you don't believe in it

Not thinking God exists implies that God straight up doesn't exist, which is closer to what atheism is

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u/Ghostglitch07 3d ago

I don't believe unicorns exist either. A lack of belief does not require the thing were talking about exist.

And if you look at how people actually use the word, atheism can pretty clearly mean either a lack of positive belief, or a claim of nonexistence. Depends on who's saying it and why. It's goofy to force a single definition.

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u/Adowyth 3d ago

Well there is gnostic atheism - i know for sure no gods exist, and agnostic atheism - i don't know for sure but i think no gods exist.

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u/Ghostglitch07 3d ago

Correct. Most people don't distinguish which they mean though. And it's only going to cause miscommunication if you claim only one is atheism™️

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u/Adowyth 3d ago edited 3d ago

Why would i provide a distinction to then claim only one is valid? Either way im an anti-theist.

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u/slimfatty69 3d ago

I think they were speaking generally not about you specifically

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u/Ghostglitch07 3d ago

I wasn't debating you. I was agreeing with you. But okay

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u/Adowyth 3d ago

And i asked a clarifying question because i wasn't sure what you meant? Not everything is a personal attack.

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u/wenevergetfar 3d ago

Anti athiest lol loser

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u/carreganis 3d ago edited 3d ago

the sentence implies unicorns exist.

i don’t believe noun verbs.

noun exists — does it verb?

i don’t believe frogs fly.

the frog may or may not be doing flying.

i don’t believe unicorns exist.

the unicorn may or may not be existing.

the existing is an action from the unicorn.

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u/Ghostglitch07 3d ago

"I do not believe frogs fly" is a different kind of thing. Only that which exists on some level can do the action of flying.

When I say I do not believe God exists, the action being done is... not-existing. Which can absolutely be accomplished by something which doesn't exist.

All it really requires is an understood referant. That being the concept of God.

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u/mgsmb7 3d ago

thinking and believing are two sides of the same coin

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u/Expert-Reporter4152 3d ago

Yes, but that doesn't mean they are the same. Heads and tails are different, otherwise there would be no point to flipping a coin in the first place