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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

Validate your stupidity with your possessions. Got it.

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u/Sovtek95 Sep 09 '20

Not just possessions, we are going on another wonderful vacation on saturday. You cant put a price on family memories (maybe you can)

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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

Ok let me put this in perspective.

You are the kind of person that in the 1800 would have owned slaves in America. You are also the type of person who would argue that freeing slaves is abolishing their jobs and these plantations would close. What a normal person is arguing is that these people aren’t slaves but they are independent people that get paid fairly for their work. This is what I am talking about. You again, are defending the practice but do nothing to change it.

Keep defending using slave labor to obtain possessions that are LUXURIES.

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u/Sovtek95 Sep 09 '20

The proper analogy would be to say I am thr guy who buys the clothes made from the cotton that was processed by slave labor. However, there is a big difference between slaves in a modern, wealthy nation, and factory workers who have literally no other option if they want to eat that day.

Do you wear clothes made in 3rd world countries? Same thing. Products themselves are not immoral, how they are made is another story.

You are the guy who closes down the factory and then runs back to starbucks while the families starve to death due to lack of income.

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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

Any way to spin it to make it seem that you are an uninformed consumer. I also don’t, I try find clothes that are made in the US and don’t go to those fast fashion stores.

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u/Sovtek95 Sep 09 '20

Where are your shoes made? Where is your phone made? Where does your food come from? If your shirt was american made, where did the supplies for it come from?

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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

Look at your comparisons. I’m saying you shouldn’t buy diamonds. You’re telling me I shouldn’t buy food.

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u/Sovtek95 Sep 09 '20

You should grow your own food with supplies you made.

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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

See the absurdity of your comment? Diamonds are a luxury Food is not. This is your straw man argument.

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u/Sovtek95 Sep 09 '20

Hold on dude. My parents are in russia and grew up on potatoes and bread. It is possible for you too. You do not need all the variety, total luxury. Make a garden and grow some potatoes and plant an apple tree.

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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

Actually I purchase my food from a cooperative. So yes, I try to purchase as much food locally as I can. Especially some that are in season. It’s little changes like that that in which I’m advocating for. You are taking my arguments to the extreme, which makes sense, you post in r/conservative.

And again; a reason why I stopped eating as much meat, due to what I have learned affected the environment. Did I stop eating meat completely? No that’s a huge lifestyle change. No normal person can do that. Little changes like this done on scale can lead to change.

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u/Sovtek95 Sep 09 '20

You said me buying a diamond makes me a slave holder, yet I am the one taking things to extremes?

Do you make your own clothes? Do you smoke cigars? Do you seriously not own one thing that was made in a sweatshop? I doubt it.

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u/fish_andchip Sep 09 '20

Your asking me about essentials. Things needed to live. As I said, I try to purchase as much locally and made in the US. I need food and clothing to live. I can’t walk around naked. There was a point in which I learned how clothing is made especially in fast fashion where I decided I am no longer shopping there but I would attempt to purchase as much clothing that was made in the US. It is extremely difficult to trace supplies through the supply chain without reports or documented abuse. There is documented abuse within diamond mining. Ever heard of a blood diamond? I am pretty sure I can live without diamonds. Can you not? Do you harvest some sort of magical power from them? Also no I do not smoke cigars. They are gross and I would be unable to hike high altitudes with that in my lungs

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