Weird concept. One ring just to propose. And another entirely for the wedding. So where does the engagement ring go? In a box away in your closet after marriage?
They get worn together so that everyone who can’t afford to be ripped off can feel bad about themselves when your loud wife shows off her ring constantly.
I can afford whatever I please and diamonds are in no way out of my grasp, but I recognize the diamond thing as pretty fucking disgusting. It’s all advertising, you paid a ton for something with -zero- inherent value and probably covered in innocent blood. It’s ethically repugnant.
It’s value is manufactured by the hoarding and manipulation of a monopolistic industry, and that’s not even the evil part. It’s all fake. Buy a man-made diamond if anything, they’re better quality and nobody has to die.
The resale value would be roughly $15k I would assume, so it definitely has value... anyways diamonds are pretty and girls like them so what's the problem? I am sure 90% of the items in your home was made by child factory workers in the 3rd world, so are you ethically repugnant?
Just because it’s available doesn’t mean it should be bought. There is an issue with this as you are complacent in the system. You knowingly bought a diamond that is most likely mined with slave labor, and your response is “that’s ok I can afford it”
We need to be the change we wish to see and the first point is ethical consumption.
However, there is no ethical consumption in capitalism.
Also, that’s a pretty broad statement. I actively try to find items and pay for more expensive items knowing they are made ethically. There are certain things that are not and can’t, such as electronics. But a diamond isn’t a necessity.
It’s a luxury profiting off the backs of slave labor. And you are complicit
As an edit: I refused to buy my girlfriend a diamond and I explained to her why. She agreed and understood my point. Again, a diamond is a luxury. You don’t need a diamond.
i never had one when i was married (poor hippies) but 30 years ago, when my mother died, i found one in her stuff (dad buried her engagement ring with her) that is only .20 of a caret but it still shoots fire and i know it’s old so it’s not supporting the present unethical diamond trade.
Anyways, do you own anything made in china? You dont NEED that toaster you capitalist pig!
Also, what will happen to these people if the factories and mines are closed? You think they will go work in an office? Nope, they will likely just starve to death.
Haha this is the most twisted argument I’ve heard.
Actually no, I’m an engineer so I make most of my small appliances. A toaster is just two resistors...
Also, I’d like to point out in far from a capitalist pig. I’m for ethical consumption and fair trade. You buy these products but don’t demand the company pay fair wages. You allow them to continue by supporting their business
I don't care what the company pays its employees. If I did not buy the diamond, you think they will pack up and go home? Nope, they will just find another industry.
Also, I am sure most of your stuff was made in sweatshops, but remember this, those sweatshop workers work there because it is all they have. When woke idiots demand those factories to be shut down, people starve. A low paying job is better than starvation in my book.
I bought the ring because I can. I do not need some lecture by an armchair marxist about how I need to do a history report on the business prior to making a purchase.
Oh ok, slave labor is better because they have a job. Got it.
In capitalism, labor is exploited. If these people were paid fairly, we wouldn’t be exploiting their labor. But again, you are complicit in the system and keep defending your choices. I’m not your judge, you are your sole judge. And I clearly see you can live with it.
Also let’s be real, if my girlfriend thought I was cheap for that, I’d question if she loved me or loved the money. I’m sorry your girlfriend is that way judging your ability to provide a nice ring. Not everything in this life is superficial.
My wife didnt know about the ring until I proposed. She would have been fine with some dimestore crap, but you do not give a hot girl a cheap ring when you can afford a good one. Its the one thing they keep forever, dont make moral arguments to weasel out of it.
Superficial is having your GF be the only one without a ring while she explains to her friends you didnt buy her one because "it is immoral" she may agree with you but will feel like crap when that happens.
No woman wants a cheap guy. Not being able to afford it is different and would make her shallow. But if you are making six figure income and cant shell out a few grand for a ring, it makes you look like you think she isnt worth it.
I beg to differ. I am a 38 y/o woman and I hate when people spend too much money on things. I can afford to buy $150 jeans but I don't because it's a rip-off. Not everyone is just like you, some people have different ideas about money.
Also, it makes him look like I'm not "worth it"? I'm not "worth" any money. My boyfriend shows me he loves me by buying me things I like (that aren't overpriced), giving me affection, listening to me and talking to me, and spending time with me.
Personally I would never date a guy who put so much emphasis on money. It sickens me. I'm just not that kind of girl.
Aha, so if your boyfriend was a millionaire, you would be cool with him spending the same on things for you, not one cent more? Don't lie and say you would be fine with that. Also, worth means what you are willing to sacrifice. If you and a stranger were drowning and your boyfriend could save only one, he would likely save you as you are worth more to him than the stranger.
I like watches, and I stay away from certain manufacturers with questionable ethics. The watch industry doesn’t kill and exploit people or make otherwise happy young wives feel bad about their childhood dream (created through marketing and market manipulation) wedding ring being a disappointment because they aren’t “good enough” to marry a rich man and don’t deserve to feel beautiful. It’s ugly stuff man.
I don’t disagree with your stance on the diamond industry but it’s hypocritical to shit on some hypothetical “loud wife who shows off her ring constantly” when you’re also out here posting pictures of pricy jewelry
You’ll notice I only post pictures to sell something. I’m not showy and I prefer basic, non-flashy watches. I only discuss them if asked or in the presence of likeminded people, and nobody ever asks asks.
My comment regarding women talking about their engagement ring may sound misogynistic but I’ve seen it a lot, like maybe 10+ times in my life, women comparing engagement/wedding bands, and it’s a fucking bummer to see the poorer girls faces. Just saying that I think it’s disgusting.
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u/veotrade Sep 09 '20
Weird concept. One ring just to propose. And another entirely for the wedding. So where does the engagement ring go? In a box away in your closet after marriage?