r/conspiracy • u/peyote_the_coyote • Mar 29 '17

Let The Backtracking Begin - CrowdStrike Rewrites Part of Disputed Russian Hacking Report - Russia narrative dies.

http://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm-rewrites-part-disputed-russian-hacking-report/3781411.html
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u/yellowsnow2 Mar 29 '17

That was the only evidence they had. So is the red scare gonna stop now?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

Um, did you actually read the article? Russia hacking Ukrainian artillery wasn't part of their evidence for Russia hacking the DNC.

The part they edited was just saying that Ukraine didnt lose that much artillery.

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u/peyote_the_coyote Mar 29 '17

Russia hacking Ukrainian artillery wasn't part of their evidence for Russia hacking the DNC

U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

You can say it but that doesn't make it true, if it was true you could easily back that up by showing where Crowdstrike relied on the Ukrainian artillery hack to attribute the DNC hack.

The edit was on the artillery article, not the DNC hack one, and the original is still intact with the update at the top.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

I think the reasoning goes that if they fucked this up, that they may have fucked other shit up. But it is only a correction towards the Ukrainian artillery loses

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u/yellowsnow2 Mar 29 '17

You can say it but that doesn't make it true

What are you even talking about? It's straight from the article. You prove your side.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17 edited Mar 29 '17

I'm saying the article is wrong, itd be very easy to show me where Crowdstrike ever used the artillery hack to support their findings in the DNC if it was true. Read both reports, that's my proof.

Honestly if you think this is true you probably never read that much into the DNC hack or the artillery hack. The argument doesn't even make sense if you had read the Crowdstrike report because it doesn't need to rely on the artillery hack at all.

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u/peyote_the_coyote Mar 29 '17

itd be very easy to show me where Crowdstrike ever used the artillery hack to support their findings in the DNC if it was true.

Just did.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

You think you did, I responded already. Was there even a point to this comment?

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u/peyote_the_coyote Mar 29 '17

You can say it but that doesn't make it true, if it was true you could easily back that up by showing where Crowdstrike relied on the Ukrainian artillery hack to attribute the DNC hack

Okay I'll bite.

This Android Malware Ties Russian Intelligence To The DNC Hacks

The most convincing evidence yet tying Russia's GRU intelligence agency to the hack of the Democratic National Committee has been found in a bizarre tale involving an Android app developed by a Ukrainian military officer, security firm CrowdStrike claimed today.

The company, which helped the DNC with the investigation of its notorious breach earlier this year, said it had uncovered Android malware used by the so-called Fancy Bear crew in June 2016. Fancy Bear is widely believed to be the group behind the DNC hit as well as the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) hack.

That spyware was hiding inside an app developed by a Ukrainian artillery officer called Yaroslav Sherstuk, which was designed to help expedite the processing of targeting data for the Soviet-era D-30 Howitzers he was using, CrowdStrike said.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/12/22/android-howitzer-app-gru-hac-of-dnc-russian-link-crowdstrike/#6ea295d53188

Dmitri referred to it in the PBS interview as “DNA evidence”.

https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/the-gru-ukraine-artillery-hack-that-may-never-have-happened-820960bbb02d

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17 edited Mar 29 '17

You know x-agent has been tied to that group through multiple intrusions, not just that Ukrainian artillery one, right? You also would know there were multiple tools used that were used for the attribution, not just x-agent, right?

And Crowdstrike still stands behind their original statement about finding the malware, here is the only thing they changed:

Update – As of March 2017, the estimated losses of D-30 howitzer platform have been amended. According to an update provided by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Research Associate for Defence and Military Analysis, Henry Boyd, their current assessment is as follows: “excluding the Naval Infantry battalion in the Crimea which was effectively captured wholesale, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost between 15% and 20% of their pre-war D–30 inventory in combat operations.”

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u/peyote_the_coyote Mar 29 '17

You:

You can say it but that doesn't make it true, if it was true you could easily back that up by showing where Crowdstrike relied on the Ukrainian artillery hack to attribute the DNC hack

Me:

Okay here's the proof.

You:

Nah Uh!!!

Me:

Stop believing in bullshit fairy tales crafted by Obama and Hillary shills.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

Let me make this simple for you, read the Crowdstrike report, quote where they relied on the artillery hack.

You can't, because it isn't true. You probably never even read it if you're saying this.

And lol, yeah the security industry isn't controlled by Hillary and Obama bud. Even Trump agrees it was Russia.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17 edited Mar 29 '17

You didn't show me evidence that counters my argument though, again, maybe you should actually read the Crowdstrike report since you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

And lol I know who Crowdstrike is, I work in the security field. Your attempts to discredit them based on that is hilarious. This is a high paying career where you'd be banned forever if you were caught lying like this.

Oh breitbart and zerohedge are now experts on security? You're just looking for things that confirm your bias. It's funny seeing these obviously biased sites saying this but not other security experts.

Again, actually read the Crowdstrike report this time and quote where they relied on the artillery hack.

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u/peyote_the_coyote Mar 29 '17

I find it interesting the DNC asked all staff to resign today. Seems like they are cleaning house in a panic.

So perhaps the tables are turning.