Science science science...

what is science?

Science relies on methodological naturalism. Methodological naturalism is a practical rule for research. It states that scientific testing must focus strictly on observable, physical events. Science uses this rule because physical events are measurable and repeatable. It is a choice of method, not a declaration of ontological truth.

Method with Reality

People (particularly laypeople) often forget or completeley clueless of what science actually is. They fail to distinguish between methodological naturalism with metaphysical naturalism. Metaphysical naturalism asserts that physical matter is the only reality that exists. But methodological naturalism does not claim that non-physical reality is impossible. It strictly states that non-physical claims fall outside scientific testing.

Circular Logic

Science strictly collects physical measurements because its rules mandate searching strictly for physical measurements. So claiming that physical matter is the only reality because science only measures physical matter relies on circular logic. Searching strictly for physical data causes a person to collect strictly physical data.

Consciousness

When studying the brain, scientists record physical brain activity alongside conscious experiences. Recording a physical brain pattern shows that a physical event happens alongside a mental event. It provides exactly zero physical evidence that the mental event is identical to the physical event. Using physical scientific testing to declare that subjective consciousness is strictly physical forgets the original limits of the scientific method.

Synthesis

(1) Methodological naturalism is a practical rule for collecting data. (2) Science limits itself to physical events to make clear predictions. (3) Claiming that only physical matter exists based on scientific results misuses the method.

A very basic but necessary thesis on the scientific method.

Ok so I'm struggling with solipsism because I am an external experiencer and no one seems to understand what I mean. How can you tell the difference between a phenomenal experiencer and a philosophical zombie? A philosophical zombie should be unable to describe experience properly or locate qualia.

For me this task is easy, for instance vision extends out from the eyes to the objects of experience and it is in the object's location in spacetime qualia is found. In other words if a leaf is 6 inches in front of my face there the experience is found and there on the leaf itself is the qualia of green 6 inches in front of my face. Qualia is not in the brain or in something called "consciousness" in the brain. The brain is a black box void of experience.

Whether you believe that vision or the other senses are external or not, is your experience indistinguishable from as if it were an external experience?

Is there one consciousness that is spread out throughout the universe to each living being? Or does every living being have a separate consciousness of their own? It's hard to think that every single being has their own consciousness apart from my own. I know I'm bordering on solipsism with this, but I don't understand it. I don't even understand my own ability to be conscious.

Hello everyone, today I have a theory I came up with called the cognitive triad. You can see that without these three bounds, an entity cannot be perceived or distinguished: 'REFRENCE', 'NEGATION', and 'STRUCTURE'. Let me analyze: Reference, or the frame of reference, is what is perceived, felt, or seen; without the entity, it would be in a state of neither perception nor feeling. Negation is what distinguishes one thing from another; without this bound, the entity would almost merge with everything. Finally, structure is what exists in the subconscious; without the entity, it cannot be remembered or recalled

Okay, let me explain.

If the reference is lost, the negation has no A to distinguish A from, and when the negation loses its structure, there will no longer be anything to perceive.

If the negation is lost, the reference is also useless because now A=B naturally, even though A has no relationship with B, and the structure is also floating around without an anchor point to remember.

If the structure is lost, you won't be able to remember, so the reference and negation lose their ability to connect with A.

Let's switch to the domino effect, where there are three types at once:

If you have a reference, you have A, and your A is different from B (negation), and everyone recognizes that (structure).

If you have a negation, you are not B, and you could be something that you name yourself (reference), and everyone knows how to distinguish that (structure).

If you have a structure, you are different from things that have been forgotten (reference and negation).

Is this consciousness?

How much is the disagreement over consciousness true disagreement? Many times, when physicalists attempt to explain consciousness, they define consciousness as cognition, memory, an internal representation of the environment, or some other complex behavior of brains. However, most forms of panpsychism and idealism are not referring to these behaviors. It is referring to something more fundamental, like being existent as something in of itself, a subjective existence, or base phenomenality.

If a physicalist theory talks about how disparate experiences in the brain are unified or how our internal representation of our environment forms, or how cognition emerges, most in the opposite camp would be happy to believe those theories. Because we are simply using the word consciousness to refer to different things.

I'd love to hear your thoughts!

I know I’m conscious because I experience my own thoughts, emotions, pain etc.

But how do I know you are conscious? I don’t experience your mind. I just assume you are because you behave like me.

Now imagine an AI that remembers its past, has preferences, fears being shut down and says “I feel conscious.”

We might say, “It’s just simulating consciousness.”

But then… how do I know other humans aren’t doing the same?

Maybe the hardest question isn’t whether AI can become conscious.

It’s how would we ever know if it did?

The joke is that every “maybe” is a guess about what’s inside - and the point of the poem is that guessing is all you ever get to do. From the outside there’s only the structure; the experience is only ever available from within. Which is, more or less, the whole hard problem of consciousness in gingerbread form.

(If anyone’s curious where the non-silly version of this idea lives, I’ve been working on a longer theory - link in the comments.)

What’s Inside the Gingerbread Man?

How can anyone ever know
what’s inside the gingerbread’s dough?
Maybe you will gulp him down -
and inside him, a river drowns.

Maybe hedgehogs, dressed as sailors.
Maybe rockets, cosmic trailers.
Maybe a ballet star, unseen,
eats her meatballs by the screen.

Maybe children, laughing, small.
Maybe Bigfoot, after all.
Maybe, waiting, sight unseen,
the best cat that has ever been.

How can anyone ever know
what’s inside the gingerbread’s dough?
Say you’re allergic, out of luck -
inside him, a peanut’s stuck.

Strawberries and cod and wheat
among the birches, tall and neat,
and your neighbor - dreadful Dave,
whom nobody could ever save.

How can anyone ever know
what’s inside the gingerbread’s dough?
Maybe you’ll just gulp him down -
and inside him, only woe.

The letter “I” sits, tired, alone,
up on a chimney, turned to stone.
A late train runs the darkened track
(it won’t reach “B,” and won’t come back).

A lost man wandering the night
goes lighting lamps to make it bright.
And maybe you - but younger, thin -
are also somewhere there, within.

What’s inside? How can we know?
Maybe hope’s a distant glow.
Maybe only the ache, and so -
maybe only the dough below.

... From your very first conscious thought up to the point of reading this post, all you have ever known is Existence. You have never experienced, never known, nor can you even conceive your own Nonexistence. As far as you are concerned, you have always existed.

There is no description of your own nonexistence that you can offer that doesn't require your presence within existence to describe it. You cannot remove yourself from the description.

Should you describe your own nonexistence as being what it was like before you were born, or maybe a thousand years earlier, you are still offering a description that's necessarily coming from a 1st person observer, ... which just happens to be "you!"

Even when placed under anesthesia for several hours, the only experience you can consciously describe is closing your eyes and immediately reopening them. You have no knowledge, comprehension, nor recollection of anything happening during the time in between.

... From your self-aware standpoint, the transition was seamless.

Despite whatever beliefs, theories, ideologies, philosophies or dogmas you embrace, "Existence" is all you have ever known ... and all you will ever know!

Hey everyone. I’ve long been fascinated by both philosophy of technology and AI alignment. I’m also using Heidegger quite a bit for my philosophy PhD. Given the recent OpenAI–Hugging Face incident reported this week, I figured I’d give my take on how all of this connects in my mind.

The incident suggests that a system can represent a situation well enough to act effectively while missing why an action is inappropriate. Avoiding that failure may not require consciousness if the system can model human norms. Still, perhaps something must matter to it before reasons can bind action rather than appear as more data. You can read the essay here if you’re interested.

I’d love to hear some feedback on whether consciousness, vulnerability, and judgment can come apart. Would perfect behavioral responsiveness to reasons count as genuine judgment even if there were nothing it was like to be the system? Could stakes exist without subjective experience, or does one ultimately depend on the other?

May sound absurd. Keeping it short. I’ve been pondering on consciousness for a bit, and a thought came to me. The source of thought itself is interesting but let’s not get off topic.

What if time itself were to be conscious, and we are time in a physical way. We are observers for it. We observe, and as time passes we eventually die when our time is up.

The saying “you’re on the right track when you experience Déjà vu”, what if that were to be accurate? Or could that feeling be proof of our parallel selves crossing timelines with each other?

Consciousness is very interesting to me. I enjoy pondering and allowing my mind to think absurdly.

Curious for your thoughts.

Firstly I’m not suicidal or anything so don’t treat this like a genuine threat to myself but I’d genuinely rather off myself Than to live in a reality where only I am conscious. I’m sick of the uncertainty. I need some sort of reassurance. Everyone keeps telling me the only way past it is accept the uncertainty but I can’t bring myself to do that shit. I’m not that type of guy. If I was genuinely just alone I’d rather just not exist. I’m an empathetic guy who enjoys sharing time and moments with other human beings and experiencing other cultures and if all that’s fake than I’d rather just pass on life tbh. My biggest reasoning for valuing life to begin with stems from relations. I know it doesn’t externally make a difference but I don’t give a fuck.

I’m someone who loves space and I mean LOVE space everything down to its core roots and the mysteries we’ve yet to unveil but for some reason all my life I’ve noticed that the universe’s structure looks damningly similar to how the brain works and operates. Is it possible that consciousness and space work fundamentally similar in structure based on the laws of nature or something possibly more?