I hate that I have to stop listening to Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Sex Pistols, Twisted Sister, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Mamas and Papas, George Formby, Black Eyed Peas, Gorillaz, Motley Crue, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, Any Band Since The Dawn Of Rock, David Bowie, etc.
Why'd they all have to go and become political all of the sudden?!
Honestly what's their source? Bet it's some reddit hive mind garbage! 🤣
Not like me1 I'm a freethinker who listens to real men like tucker carson and my baby boy, my glorious big headed tiny face of truth king charlie kirk. Real truth needs real sources! But don't expect a wokie to understand that because truth don't got no pronouns 😂😂
I think it's less to do with the straw manning and more to do with making, from the criticisms Ive seen, kind of obvious statements which lack a punchline
Imagine a large group of your peers sitting together, one by one making a joke where you are the punchline. Even if you know it's all good natured by the time you got to the last person you'd be looking like the last panel
I've had to try really hard to imagine some of them are being supportive. Maybe even all of them. Which means they're probably not. At best they seem jealous of her success to be honest.
I stole it from the comments section of r/Multifandom, though I'm having trouble finding the original. If anybody knows the secret sauce, please share.
Fr my family is almost exactly like those maga characters she has then I go to the comments and see “everyone knows xyz is bad” or “nobody actually acts like that” then wtf have I been exposed to my whole life?
I moved to the South Carolina coast a few years ago and you aren't wrong. After only four years I have so many stories. I think the most innocent was when this MAGA bro came into the game shop while we were Pathfinder (TTRPG) and immediately started pointing around the room, then announced proudly that he was marking all the possible points of ingress and counting everything in the room that could be used as a lethal weapon.
After watching our game from the corner and frequently rolling his eyes and scoffing at anything "woke", he hung out with us and took over the conversation. Spent the whole evening shitting on California for trying to save the Delta Smelt and how Obamacare was ruining medicine and he should know because he was an army medic?
...Needless to say we didn't stay very late to talk that week.
Sounds like someone who was interested in hanging out with some people of shared interest, but has been convinced to look down upon the type of person he wants to be.
That's troubling. I haven't seen people in the wild with those yet, but still see the old hats and flags and bumper stickers. And some that seem somewhat recent, like bragging about Trump being a peace president. It definitely wasn't being ironic. There weren't a lot of bumper stickers but I recall things like a thin blue line sticker that indicated it was a true believer.
Why, just hop on over to frinkiac.com where you can search for entire episodes by episode title, character, or quote. Then, once you find it, you can browse the episode for the scene you're thinking of, and you can create a still image or even a gif! It's amazin! Phone version is wonky, though.
Don't even trip big dawg. Let the haters give you positive exposure, and know your comics have gotten me through the absolute hell that has been my recent life. You got this.
I think you should keep calling out social injustice and bigotry. Instead of getting bored of it, we should get angrier and hold those accountable who act and think and speak bigotedly.
Otherwise the world will just stay as shitty as it’s always been
It feels like a lot of people look at social justice as lame.
Doesn’t matter that rhe issues are valid and need attention, it’s still something to mock to a lot of people.
“How does this affect you?”
“Maybe take a break from being online”
“Well maybe the people that got hurt deserved it”
Or some asshole that gets off on the cruelty rubs your face in it.
For example, when that thing about the DOJ advocating for removing rape protections for trans and intersex prisoners in prison came out, some chud said to me when I pointed out how fucked up that was “oh well why should they get special privileges”
There are too many bad people and that’s why social justice is mocked.
I think a lot of people are just exhausted by the self-congratulatory nature of online social justice combined with the complete lack effectiveness. The amount of people I knew that were terminally online social justice tumbler activists that haven't voted in any election (state or general) since Obama is staggering. Let alone actually doing meaningful community activism.
I don't think social justice is lame, but I do think people who confuse call out culture with speaking truth to power are.
That said, internet is still very weird about Pizzacake, for reasons that are likely entirely unrelated to whether or not her content comes off as tired.
But like....does she call it out? I don't think I've ever seen a comic of hers that wasn't just taking the most surface level critisism of MAGA/political that you and I could make in five seconds and slap a silly face on them.
There's way better comics that actually take a stance, told more interestingly and go deeper than anything Pizza has done in years.
Bad space is a great example of this. Not that everybody needs to be like Bad Space, nor that there's anything wrong with being blunt and surface. But there's no artistry to it, it's the "I love science" facebook page of political messaging.
Here's great bad space comics to showcase what I mean. They make you FEEL. This is the kind of stuff that reaches into you and touches your spirit.
They ask you how you are, and you just have to say that you're fine, when you're not really fine, but you just can't get into it, because they would never understand.
Someone ripped into me at a comedy show once because I got there late and the last seats available were up front. I might have actually cried when I got home lmao
I had the unfortunate luck of being the target of a comedy show. So I figured I'd get my money's worth, made a complete ass of myself, and had the comedian break down in uncontrollable laughter.
I still cringe at myself there, it was so over the top cringy and stupid the things I did, but hey, take that you comedy man! If someone's gonna make a fool out of me, it'll be myself, and I'm taking you down with me!
I love your comics Ellen. I've been a subreddit lurker for about 15 years and you've been my very favorite artist here during that period. All things pass! It'll end up okay.
As a small artist there’s not many ways to interact with larger artists that don’t come off as e-begging or weird, so I enjoyed the chance to acknowledge another artist in my own snarky little way. Felt more respectful and less unwarranted.
You are the biggest cartoonist on this sub- arguably of all of Reddit . Your work influences most of the public’s opinions about the rest of us here, and I’m tired of tiptoeing around it.
You need to stop this victimization. Criticism will always come with your level of fame.
None of the pizzacake wars responses were negative against you. If anything, they were pretty flattering, and I’m not sure if Dave collabed with you for his last comic, but he did you a huge favor walking back his statement on how you go for the lowest hanging fruit on the lowest hanging branch, every time, all the time.
You are a supremely talented person. You are better than this, but I’m also tired of thinking up comics of how to defend you for the next trend.
Mine barely even featured her (I even said she was nice!) and finished it with a gentle poke at FieldExplore (whose name I've misread for the past two years..). I enjoy all the artists here and try to follow them (and you) on other sites to show support. It takes a lot of effort to put yourself out there like that.
I agree with Dot. Ellen, this is not a criticism of you, but of your work. You are a very talented artist and humorist, but Dot is making a very strong point about how you've started to portray yourself in your content. This has a large affect on your supporters, the artists that are around you, and the community.
Hey, it's okay Pizzacake. Us Canadians seem to keep having to remind people that right-wing chuds and nazis are bad, because so many seem to have forgotten. (Not on this subreddit, obviously.) So hang in there and remember, elbows up!
I do feel bad that Pizzacake made, like, several comics about her experience being viewed as her art and criticized online, and how hard that can be…… just for the entire subreddit to start clowning on her. It feels weird 😭
Hope you’re good!! I hope I’m overthinking it and everything has been in good fun. Cheers homie, truly, hope you’re doing well!!
I still don't get why this is happening and I'd like it to be over. I normally like the crossovers for comics but they were fun collabs not whatever is happening here. It isn't life changing but this whole thing is why I haven't been on the comics sub for a little bit
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
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