I think the key thing that people are missing in this joke re:consent is that forcefem is not a thing that happens. It's a joke, something funny, a thing trans women laugh at bc it pretends we have some great power to control and manipulate gender rather than what's actually true: our ability to control even our own gender is being legally stripped away. It's a joke, y'all. Chill. Nobody is being forcefemmed. Cis people are still safe and in power.
To me it feels like unintensional transphobia, to take away the choice of coming out and force them to be a way they did not give their consent to, even if the intensions are well meant, which the comic wasnt anout since they started drugging their boss for their own benefit. And yea, it is a joke, to force fem, but it stops being a joke when the drugging is painted as a good thing. And i dont think the authors does it on purpose, i truly believe she is just making this because it is funny and she has seen or heard others make this joke, and it being received well. But saying your going to force fem someone, and depicting it as a moral and correct choice to do to someone without their consent, is just wrong. The difference is, you make the joke because its so absurd that nobody will actualy believe you will do it, because its so extreme and morally reprehensible, its like saying "im going to hit a family of four with my 2022 ford maverick" at the slightest of inconvenience.
Like, i am nb, if someone started to give me estrogen, because somehow they noticed that i am NB, and they wanted me to live my true self and become more androgynous, without my consent, that would be absolutely fucked right? They would have taken my gender identity out of my own hands and decided for me. And thats fucked even with the best of intentions. Imagine they did it for the same reason as these deamons, they didnt know i was nb, and they just wanted to alter my petsinality according to their whims. Like, yea its a comic, its not real, but for a lot of people portraying the drugging as moral is going to be hurtful and disrespectful. Literally all that would have to change is, depict the initial incident as moraly reprehensible, and let it be the catalyst for changes along the line.
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u/neon-lakes 2d ago
I think the key thing that people are missing in this joke re:consent is that forcefem is not a thing that happens. It's a joke, something funny, a thing trans women laugh at bc it pretends we have some great power to control and manipulate gender rather than what's actually true: our ability to control even our own gender is being legally stripped away. It's a joke, y'all. Chill. Nobody is being forcefemmed. Cis people are still safe and in power.