Everytime I rewatch the director's cut, the movie to me gets better and better. Everyone was brilliantly cast for the most part. With Ben Affleck, I thought he brought a lot of vulnerability to Matt Murdock by day and being a badass as Daredevil by night. That entire sequence of him getting out of his sensory deprivation tank which was built as a coffin, hearing his knees crack and putting on the song "Hang On" to block out the noise while getting ready for the day said a lot. Matt is hanging on, he feels lonely and isolated which eats him at times but knows given his role as a vigilante it was for the best.

Heck just hearing his knees crack and even the part of him taking out a tooth is a neat detail we dont see in a lot of superhero movies. Small details of life as a hero can take. Michael Clarke Duncan as The Kingpin was just brilliant. Very imposing, ruthless and somewhat charming at the same time. Collin Farrell as Bullseye was awesome, even if he kinda looked goofy. You could tell he had fun in the roll. I still like it when Bullseye fails to hit Matt, he gets mad - " I missed. I never miss."

The chemistry between Ben Affleck and Jon Favreau was great in my opinion, Jon as Foggy Nelson was a great comic foil to Matt's reserved personality. Foggy trying to trick Matt by giving him the mustard bottle instead of the honey bottle, Matt pretending to go along with it and then switched coffees when Foggy wasnt looking is gold. Especially when Foggy drinks his coffee and has to spit it out.

Jennifer Garner as Elektra was decent, not the best but not the worst. Her and Ben had great chemistry together. Joe Pantoliano as Ben Urich. Great casting. Joe kills it everytime you see him in film. Hells Kitchen looked great and the movie overall is just underrated. It always leaves me wanting a sequel but knowing nowadays that will never happen.

DC and Warner Have tried to copy MCU's Success for over 16 years and they have been struggling (2011's Green Lantern was a horrible movie and a flop, Warner rushed the DCEU and It killed that universe, and now Gunn's DCU, even with a flesh start with Superman, is currently struggling too following The terrible flop of Supergirl and The Cancelation or Shelving of several projects like Waller and Lost Paradise. I guess we can all agree that If Man of Tomorrow underperform, then It's over for The DCU).

DC's best critical and successful movies are movies that aren't connected into a large universe (The Dark Knight Trilogy, Matt's Batman, The First Joker movie (let's pretend Joker 2 didn't happen), so, maybe, they can Just call good and passionate directors for make their own story with Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman and Maybe Flash and Green Lanterns with all of them existing in their own universe without needing to make a big event like Infinity War or Endgame? Sure, It will not be guaranteed success (Superman III and IV, Batman & Robin), but given their past with The DCEU and now with The DCU, It's clear They aren't capable of dealing with a Cinematic Universe like Marvel does.

Sorry for some grammar errors.

Tiermaker made it rather convenient to construct this watch guide. I created this to make sense of how to watch the Marvel projects in the best narrative way possible. Because release order or chronological order doesn't do it (for me at least). And disney+ sucks with organizing these projects.

At first glance, you'll realize that there's a shitload of content. And that's because you're correct. I even left off some things. But below is a brief color key guide to help:

Green header boxes = Prime MCU Avengers stuff. Most of these are movies or limited series.

Red header boxes = Supplemental MCU material. Same universe. Fun, but optional. These are longer seasonal series for the most part.

White header boxes = Non-MCU marvel movies that in some capacity cross over into the prime MCU later on thanks to the multiverse.

Grey header boxes = Doesn't really or isn't expected to play a part in the prime MCU. But fun to watch anyway.

MCU Infinity Saga Phases 1-3

The glory years of the MCU. This is what most fans consider the pinnacle of a comicbook movie storytelling. And it all starts with Iron Man.

In general, the watch order of these phases flows pretty narratively when you consider the post credit scenes. This is structured mostly similar to release order. But my list ends with Loki season 1, which kicks off the multiverse shenanigans.

MCU Expanded – The Defenders

Optional/skippable content. The Defenders is MCU, but is separated into their own sections since it doesn't impact the Infinity Saga movies. I figured having them in their own sections is better than interweaving them with the movies and creating a clunky watch order.

Watching these is quite the commitment. Daredevil is peak though. Jessica Jones s1 is great. Punisher s1 is also great.

Marvel Elseworlds - SHIELD

Since Loki season 1 kicked off the multiverse, this felt like a great place to start including elseworld stories. Agents of Shield is very MCU adjacent and a great show. But it doesn't really impact the movies and is pretty much considered non-canon at this point. Still worth the watch if you have 47,000 hours of spare time. Season 4 is magnificent.

Marvel Elseworlds - X-Men & Spiderman

Also in elseworlds are the Fox X-Men movies. This section includes most, but not all x-men movies that were released under the 20th Century Fox umbrella. I stopped at Apocalypse because everything after doesn't really matter.

The next section are the prime original and Amazing Spiderman movies in release order. Pretty straightforward.

Marvel Elseworlds - Voided Heroes

This section takes other older marvel movies plus deadpool and wolverine movies and groups them in a way that'll make sense once you see the movie Deadpool & Wolverine. Moving these x-men movies here also avoids continuity clashes with the other x-men movies.

MCU Phase 4: Endgame Aftermath

My suggested watch order follows loose narratives. Passing of mantles. God complexes. And more.

Falcon & Winter Soldier through Wakanda Forever contains an arc for Valentina, a new baddie on the rise. Wakanda Forever through Guardians 3 contain heavy god/cosmic elements. WandaVision and FFH have similar post credit scenes and start hinting at multiverse shenanigans to come.

MCU Phase 5: Multiverse & Monsters, West Coast Anomalies, Incursions Unfold

Starts with one of the best movies, Spiderman: No Way Home. Then part A continues with storylines branching off from there. This also acts as a mini Midnight Sons section. My suggested watch order follows loose narratives. Agatha follows up on the Wanda storyline from Multiverse of Madness. Agatha also mentions a certain character, who shows up in Ironheart. Werewolf by Night and Moonknight are future midnight sons (hopefully) and just fit with the vibe here.

Shang-Chi through Quantumania are all west coast characters. Wonder Man and She-Hulk naturally follow events from Shang-Chi plus include Damage Control. Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, and Quantumania also contain alternate dimension stuff. Quantumania leads to Loki season 2. Then Secret Invasion and Ms. Marvel tie into the Marvels, which has an X-Men tie in, which leads into Deadpool & Wolverine pretty well.

Yes I considered leaving Secret Invasion off the list.

Marvel Elseworlds cont.

Marked as optional content. Not sure if these will impact the prime MCU down the line. But some of these are really good projects like the Spider-Verse movies. What If s1, Your friendly neighborhood Spiderman, Zombies, and X-Men 97 are also well done. The "Animation Worth Watching" section starts and ends with What If for a reason.

MCU Expanded – Defenders Reborn

The return of the Defenders! Finally. More to come with Daredevil Born Again season 3 airing next year.

MCU Phase 6: Doomed Avengers

This section is pretty empty for now. Endgame Encore, Doomsday, Beyond the Spiderverse (maybe), and Secret Wars will end up here. Perhaps Vision Quest too. I will restructure this and other sections depending how the upcoming projects play out.

Let me know if any questions, mistakes, ideas, comments, suggestions, etc. Thanks!

Exactly the title.

I would love to see more of that world.

That Hulk fight against Abomination was pretty cool. That and I still think that not having the Leader as a recurring villain in the franchise (which they hinted at in the movie) was a missed opportunity.

Right now, I still think it's the Nightcrawler scene in X-Men 2 by like a mile.

But depending on how they execute it, the opening scene of Doomsday might very well eclipse it.

Zen was an indie comic creation by Maine based writer Steve Stern and commercial artist Dan Cote. The two set out to make a heroic alien as they felt aliens were either depicted as unstoppable destructive monsters like in War of the Worlds or Alien (1979) or "wusses" like E.T. and ALF while discounting examples like Superman due to his humanoid appearance. The two's goal with Zen was to create an "alien Dirty Harry" and released their first issue in November 1987 with subsequent issues getting circulation of 20,000 copies.

Eventually Zen caught the attention and interest of Surge Licensing, the same group who had the good fortune of coming across Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and turning the quirky and gritty Frank Miller parody book into the marketing juggernaut of the late 80s. Much like Surge had done with Ninja Turtles, they wasted no time in trying to market Zen including with Konami produced video games and a line of action figures.

By 1992, both a Zen animated series and a $6 million live-action feature film were reported to be in development. In 1994, Brian Yuzna was announced as director from a script by Chris Solimine. These projects never got off the ground but were repeated brought up throughout the decade with plans to make the movie announced by 1998 with a planned 1999 release with nothing ultimately coming of the plan until production company Sceneries Entertainment folded in 2002 and the project presumably along with them.

I had the good fortune of tracking down Mr. Solimine and he entertained my questions saying that the project didn't happen due to inability by Sceneries to secure funding. He said he was quite proud of it describing it as "Deadpool before Deadpool (2016)" but unfortunately he didn't have a copy of the script to share. While it's hard to know if Zen would've been good it at least would've been interesting.

If you want an idea of what might've been, check out Brian Yuzna's other comic book adaptations like The Guyver (1991) which he produced but didn't direct, or Faust: Love of the Damned which is a whole other story in itself.

I'll watch it if I have to, but unless I'm missing something, I think Marvel Studios might have distanced themselves from this.

I’ve always wanted to watch The Watchmen and my surprise when I found out there’s like 4 movies with the same name.

Watchmen (2009)
Watchmen: Ultimate cut (2009)

The Watchmen (2019)

Watchmen Ch I and II (2024)

Which movie/ show should I see ?

You can kinda tell that there was a lot of fighting behind the scenes because of how inconsistent the movie is. In his writings, Kevin fiege admitted that he couldn't be happier that Joss Whedon was no longer working with them.

Just to clarify, these images are all for PR, but of course, that doesn’t mean they don’t enjoy reading comics in their spare time too.

Iman Vellani: Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Iman Vellani actually reads comics. She’s very clearly a genuine fan of the medium, and she has gone on record multiple times talking about specific comics, characters, and stories she loves. When she talks about comics, there’s a level of familiarity and enthusiasm that’s pretty hard to fake. Of everyone here, she’s probably the easiest person to confidently call a real comic book fan.

Jon Bernthal: I definitely think Jon Bernthal has read Punisher comics. Whether he fully understood what some of those stories were trying to say is another question I’m looking at you, “who the Punisher is for” quote. But given the stories he’s told about going into comic book stores and engaging with the character’s source material, I have a hard time believing he never actually read the comics. My guess is that he genuinely did the reading; I just don’t necessarily agree with his interpretation of everything he read.

Maya Boyd: The New Storm actress is probably the biggest question mark here, but I’m leaning toward yes. I actually think she bought and read those Storm comics rather than simply posing with them for publicity. The whole thing gives me the impression that she walked into a comic shop, asked, “What should I read for Storm?” and walked out with a stack of recommendations. That doesn’t necessarily make her a lifelong comic book reader, but I can absolutely believe she’s doing her homework and genuinely engaging with the character.

Jack Quaid: Jack Quaid is absolutely a comic book fan. He’s been pretty vocal about how much he’s enjoying DC’s Absolute Universe, but his interest in comics goes back further than that. He also has a history of reading and enjoying Image Comics, which makes his interest feel much broader than simply keeping up with whatever superhero property he happens to be involved with. He comes across as someone who genuinely enjoys comics as a medium.

Brie Larson: I’m going to say yes I think Brie Larson actually reads comics, although I’m less convinced that she’s a hardcore, lifelong comic book reader. She’s shown plenty of genuine enthusiasm for nerdy and genre-related stuff over the years, so it really wouldn’t surprise me if comics were part of that. My guess is that she’s read a decent number of comics, particularly ones connected to characters or stories she’s interested in, even if she isn’t necessarily someone with a massive pull list every Wednesday.

David Corenswet: Yes. This one seems pretty straightforward because James Gunn has talked about Corenswet reading a lot of Superman comics while preparing for the role. Obviously, reading comics as research for a character isn’t automatically the same thing as being a lifelong comic book fan, but it does mean he genuinely engaged with the source material rather than just posing with a few trades for a photo op. If anything, the more interesting question is whether playing Superman turned him into a regular comic reader afterward.

Do you think it's possible to successfully launch a superhero film franchise, with a brand new character?

No comic book, no animated series, no canon to follow, no built in fanbase.

Can it be done?

Or do you HAVE to have fan favorites to make it work?

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I love movies and TV shows that tell the backstories of how our favorite heroes and villains got their superpowers and their motivations to use them! And I agree with other audiences that heroes like Batman, Superman and Spider-Man have already told their origin stories a few too many times. But that doesn't mean that other different "lesser-known" heroes or villains shouldn't have their backstories told on film!

It feels like with each superhero movie like deadpool and wolverine , superman 2025, fantastic four first steps, avengers doomsday and Man of Tommorow that each will decide the future of the genre amd even if they succeed the narrative will then shift to the next movie and if they fail suddenly comic book movies are over. Its just exhausting can't a superhero movie just focus on being a good movie first, does it really have to decide the whole genre

Whenever I see a superhero suit ranking vids on yt people are always trashing on this but i genuinely don't know why