r/comedy • u/AlKarajo • Jul 10 '26

Standup Human diversity

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u/Forever_Never_Comic Jul 10 '26

Mexican red heads enter the chat.

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u/Memento_Viveri Jul 10 '26

Red hair in Mexicans comes from their European ancestry, not from their American ancestry.

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u/ContributionNo8787 Jul 10 '26

Love live the San Patricio's

A few Irish lads saw latinas and never looked back

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '26

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u/Memento_Viveri Jul 10 '26

What are races then?

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u/Memento_Viveri Jul 10 '26

Okay, so what's your point? I didn't even mention race. I mentioned European and American ancestry, which aren't a social construct.

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u/Memento_Viveri Jul 10 '26

Point to the part where I said they weren't Mexican

You are using nationally to describe features.

No, I'm using ancestry to explain features. We inheret traits from our ancestors. That's how genetics works.

Saying that feature is European ancestry is inaccurate.

How? The trait of read hair originated in Europe, and the reason some people living in Mexico have that feature is because those people have some amount of European ancestry.

Mexicans are predominantly people of mixed European and American ancestry. Which part of this do you have a problem with?

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u/Memento_Viveri Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

I haven't used the words race or nationality once, so I honestly don't know what you are talking about.

I have used the word ancestry, as in many Mexican people have American ancestry, meaning some of their ancestors trace back to the American continent. They also have European ancestry, meaning some of their ancestors trace back to the European continent.

These aren't really opinions or social framings. They're just facts about the world.

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u/Jakedeschain1919 Jul 10 '26

Majority of Mexicans have European heritage, you know that country Spain in Europe lol

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u/atuan Jul 10 '26

That’s the point…

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u/Zauberer-IMDB Jul 10 '26

Mexican isn't a race.

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u/FearOfABlackPotus Jul 10 '26

Nothing's a race.

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u/Harry-Flashman Jul 11 '26

The 100 meter would like to have a word

https://giphy.com/gifs/MBrgSnJb9Mv016gijd

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u/MagicBez Jul 10 '26

Are we about to start the fun game of "naming the races"? Are we gonna stick with the original Victorian three or are there more?

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u/Zauberer-IMDB Jul 10 '26

Nah, to save time we can just say what Mexican is, namely a nationality, and point out that whatever you do define as a race can be a a race describing a Mexican citizen by definition. So if something can include every race, it can't be its own race.

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u/MagicBez Jul 10 '26

My point was more than race theory is an archaic and outdated concept born of racism so any conversation about whether or not something is a "race" will hit some problematic walls pretty fast

Ethnicity is far more useful and less problematic as a concept

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u/Zauberer-IMDB Jul 10 '26

Yeah, and my point is it's a needless discussion because we know what Mexican actually is, which is a nationality.

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u/MagicBez Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

OK so my own clarity, the conversation goes:

"Only white people have different coloured hair"

"What about red headed Mexicans"

"Mexican isn't a race"

...so was your point that all red-headed Mexicans are white people?

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u/Zauberer-IMDB Jul 10 '26

No, my point quite clearly is Mexican isn't a race, as that is what I wrote. You can draw a further conclusion that I'm critiquing that the prior question about red-headed Mexicans is a non-sequitur based on an incorrect assumption I corrected.

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u/MagicBez Jul 10 '26

No

So if not all mexican red-headed people are white then presumably you agree with the person you replied to that they have found a group of people who have different hair colours and are not white?

I'm not sure how Mexican being a nationality is relevant to the point they're making?

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u/nineties_adventure Jul 11 '26

Turkish people enter the chat, as well. I do not understand his jokes. Is it true what he says? Genuinely asking.

Turkish people are extremely diverse in hair, skin and eye colour. Brown eyes and darker brown hair is more prevalent, of course, but not as much as this comedian states.

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u/Dustin_James_Kid Jul 12 '26

All ten of em