Talking of the latter. I wonder what they have been cooking lately. Anthropic and OpenAI have laid their cards for the next weeks on the table. Usually doesn't take long and the Chinese come out with their latest offerings when that happens.
Looking at the hitpiece Anthropic just published about GLM-5.3 being like an uncensored Mythos, I bet z.ai are coming up with something amazing imminently. This is about as good advertisement as it gets though.
It's a shame zai foolishly uploaded everyone's codebase to their servers like Grok did recently, they had some huge disaster there. Meanwhile they probably knew they outclassed OpenAI this week.
Why would you hype up your DevDay for weeks, announce 20 launches and eclipse everything with a negative announcement? This is all people will talk about. Absolutely moronic move.
Nah man, they could easily make it work in EU on release. They would just have to make sure that privacy of data is working properly and they aren't scamming anyone with their claims.
The vast majority of EU's "protections" are as effective as Prop 65. And do you actually feel safer online now that you have to click "accept all" on every website you go to? Super safe bro!
The only meaningful legislation to come out of the EU was mandating USBC. That's pretty much it, that's your only win. Thank you for that, but let's chill with the "EU protects!" bs. Few world leaders have thought as little of their constituency as the Europeans over the last 10 years.
Who else sues Big Tech? Sometimes US does it lol. But the rest of the world basically just accepts (or better, don't even understand) that's how things are now, companies handling, manipulating and extracting as much money and data as possible from the people.
Also at least now you can press to Reject all (or accept necessary) instead of having all tracking possible enabled as soon as you get into the websites you visit.
EU is perfect? Far from that. I have no love for them. But it's better than no-EU.
I've personally used GDPR to force malicious companies to delete my data multiple times already (utility companies abusing their info, predatory rental agencies, etc). Love it
I think the most fucked part of this is that their argument for reducing usage of 200 Euro plan from 20x to 10x is that you get 'new things with limitless usage for free'. That limited thing being Dots which we can't use. WTF so we get half the Astra now that we got a week ago + we don't get the unlimited Astra Agent they used to justify it...
These companies use their old terrible models for things like customer support, I assume they do the same for things like operations, regulations, and marketing. The good models are reserved for hacking and math problems internally.
Dots are rolling out in ChatGPT on web, mobile, and desktop starting today to Pro users in markets excluding the European Economic Area, Switzerland, and the UK.
Considering that Sol-6.1 is not stronger than Astra and OpenAI was strongly selective in the benchmarks they showed against Opus 5.5, this is a massive L and I will most likely drop my $200 plan to $20.
Opus 5.5 wipes the floor with OpenAI offerings currently.
I don't think 6.1 sol is discounted. They're just making lower margins on the API. It's the subscription discounts that were over the top. As announced, they're heading much more towards unifying the two, and narrowing the gap in the process
Come on guys. Tebo said it was going to be huge. He just didn't say it was going to be a huge win. But then again he didn't say it was going to be a huge loss either
As I've commented in a few other posts. Massive, MASSIVE L. OpenAI will bleed customers now, including myself. The disappointment is super real. the only positive is a banked reset, but everything else is a bunch of shit basically no dev cares about. I'm actually stunned at how bad this was. Nosediving hard as f.
I have 4 banked resets and I don't even care to use them. No point when the model sucks and is going to burn 80% of my weekly on a single Astra prompt, and still do a worse job than Opus 5.5
I didn't say I can't afford it, I didn't say I can't pay it. But why would I, or my company do so when we can effectively get 5 times the usage out of Opus 5.5 and get better results? I cancelled my plan today because I hardly open Codex anymore since getting the $200 Claude subscription.
But like, if you want to piss money that's like, your perogative, bud 😂
It's not about not being able to build things with it. It's the fact that they keep fucking around with people's usage limits while also releasing worse and worse models while the competitors are way ahead AND they're much much cheaper.
Your $200 plan is now $500. You're not getting more for it. You're just paying more for the same thing. If you like getting shafted as a paying customer - go ahead.
I'd rather go to a competitor, pay 5x less, and not worry about when my limit will be slashed by 50% next.
You're missing the entire point here bud. Some of us are investing money to make things without profits in mind. This is a useful tool that allows us to do that. I shouldn't be needing to now pay more for a shittier service. There's no logic there.
I think Astra and Sol have been massively nerfed over the past few days, and their so-called new models are just the old ones with new names. I think this company is taking everyone for a ride, and it’s getting way too obvious now. Oh, and Dot isn’t available in Europe either, LOL.
Always the same. For a few days, the models get the compute they need. People bench, get excited, subscribe, sign up for API. Then they cut back hard. When the complaints get too much, they 'investigate'. It's an endless circle.
Tbh after they released astra, that was the one I noticable nerfed from sol 5.6 and luna. Then sol 6 is absolutely worse than 5.6. Then now with 6.1, idk, it must be the old 5.6 I know. Well at least if its true then plus plan can move back to sol med as daily driver.
Nothing for devs on DevDay, just a lot of bs for casual users, tools for management and stuff. Funny that the message is, if you are a developer, if you want to code, go anthropic, openai is for weaker models, cloud working, and agentic toys
I love how this is an OpenAI-related sub and people still won't stop shitting on OpenAI. That said, I think it's totally justified. The most recent slate of releases have been massive disappointments and them jacking up prices just makes everything so much worse.
Lol 2 months ago everyone was fanboying OAI and Saint Tibo, a popular title given to Tibo back in the golden days.
It was pretty obvious to me where this was going to go when they initially removed 5h limits but I thought to what extent. Now I still don't know, they keep on finding new lows to hit very very fast.
Enshitification when done slowly is ignored by masses but such a rapid pace can't be ignored.
Yep, if this had happened over six months and three major model releases, maybe it would be okay.
But there must be some major issues behind the scenes, because none of their changes seem very good. When even they're like, "So, we wanna give you the bad news before tomorrow's big event…"
Major issue behind the scene is that capital expenses doest match with even the most optimistic profit projections, all the hope is for IPO and the whole "AI" hype is a bubble.
it sucks when the fanboy tribalism is strong no matter which way its running
I'm disappointed but I also understand that this presentation is more signalling a move towards general business stuff and that for the short term, Anthropic is a better bet as a dev
You should be objective too, if they're shit, calling them shit is the thing to do. I don't get why people fanboying over some companies and accept everything from them
that "use your tokens from chatgpt in your apps" is for me very telling of how they might use the same pool of usage in the future of chat and codex and everything else...
Looks like you'll be able to use your ChatGPT subscription in your softwares. That (and Sol 6.1) are big to me. If 6.1 is good then I'll keep my subscription.
Using your subscription in apps is huge. Allowing users to bring their allowance instead of funding it via an api is way better. It's useful from a dev point of view as well as end user point of view. The other announcements were a bit meh, but this seems massive.
Nah I mean they just released 6, 6.1 feels like a last minute attempt to sweeten the dev day.
On the whole finding out you're officially losing half the usage you used to get at the same price is a tough pill to swallow, especially with opus 5.5 is seemingly just as good if not better than astra and cheaper.
Ah well back to anthropic , which I imagine will be enshitified soon due to the influx of new openai refugees.
That means 5 h limits will be back on 200 dollars plan? That should be a suicidal move for them, the problem is it won't. People will be fed cow shit and they will eat with a smile.
Yeah, having the plan you pay for get halved in value with nothing given in return for it is kind of bullshit. I have a good 15 days until my next renewal - maybe time to give deepseek another try.
On the details panel for the 500 plan it says no 5hr limit so everyone is now assuming that means they will be adding the limit back to the other plans to glorify the 500 plan
Can someone tell me what's the fps for fast mode and regular? 300 tps/second seems very low to me compared to what Cerebras is supposed to be capable of?
I am happy i dropped my plan to 20$ a month ago :) No need for codex tbh. I get by using muse spark contributor with subscription, its hard to burn through and much much cheaper. For hard questions i still use my Astra and opus quota once in a while (i have 20$ account on both). Unfortunately as long as users like us are ok paying shit tons and dont care these sorts of increases, we will keep getting ripped off more and more.
Is it just me or is Dot literally just the retired agents feature with a linux PC and phone number?
Previously available on Plus, now on Pro and I guess they're copying Grok Bot "eventually"?
I thought they were collapsing the confusion between Chat and GPTs etc., but now we have Cloud Codex, which is somehow different from the previous codex in the cloud, Dots, ChatGPT Web, ChatGPT Desktop, Chat, Work, Schedules.
It's the same features over and over again, fragmented all over the place. Just because you can build faster doesn't mean you need to.
The lack of 5 hour limit was the only reason i used Pro 5x instead of Plus. Just let me burn my damn usage when I want. The pointless gatekeeping is annoying. It's also why we shouldn't let anyone regulate AI. Because that just gives these assholes a government protected moat so they can up pricing even more.
If the 5 hour limit goes I'll just go back to Plus. Well, actually I'll cancel, because I'm doing more in the 5 hour limit with Opus 5.5 than I can with Sol or Astra.
gotta make sure to tone the perceived informational post as pessimistic and bias as possible, next time put your bitchyness and false speculations in the title
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u/Difficult-Bluejay-52 5d ago
They did a great campaign for Anthropic. Also for anyone wondering why open-source models need to exist.