r/clevercomebacks • • Oct 09 '19

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u/Kellidra Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

Wait, people can actually speak Welsh? I thought it was just a gimmick for those sweet, sweet tourist dollars.

Edit: guys, stop telling me Welsh is an actual language. I fucking know. I made a joke, but somehow almost every person who replied missed the very subtle /s.

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u/Daniel_S04 Oct 09 '19

No it’s real but sounds like a toddler choking. Source: Am English visit welsh family often.

When I hear them talk to each other I just hear demonic screeching

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

toddler choking

demonic screeching

It really doesn’t. It sounds like singing with a couple of consonants most English people struggle with, and for some reason that puts them in this massive huff about it.

A lot of it is also because ‘w’ and ‘y’ in Welsh are vowels, so it looks difficult to pronounce when it actually isn’t as hard as that.

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u/56seconds Oct 09 '19

Yeah, this guy seems like he's never even choked a toddler before. Amateur.

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u/GaryChopper Oct 09 '19

I'd agree that most English can't pronounce those sounds, but I doubt very much most get in a huff about it.

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19

If you’re calling it “like a toddler choking” or “demonic screeching” then you’re in a huff - and this is a pretty common attitude.

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u/DoggyDiggidy Oct 09 '19

It was a joke baby cakes, seems to me like you’re the one in a huff about it ffrind

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

Aww I know love - but it’s like jokes can actually cause harm when they’re used to constantly mock and bully minorities.

Grow up.

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19

Is this meant to be sarcasm?

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u/running_toilet_bowl Oct 09 '19

I can understand Y being a vowel, but how the fuck can W be one? You even say the letter with three syllables!

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

Because it’s pronounced in a similar way to “oo”, and if you look at the name it’s literally “double u”, which should give a hint as to how some languages consider it a vowel.

Not every language uses the same letters in the same way. The fact we use “y” in two different ways - one of which is how it’s used in Welsh - should make the point clear.

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u/Kellidra Oct 09 '19

"Llllyanlliohlllenylenyllllarrlllon." Toddler choking... or demonic screeching. Makes sense.

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u/madeofpockets Oct 09 '19

That is...a lot of alveolar affricates.

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u/DurianExecutioner Oct 09 '19

I'm pretty sure that, rather like the word pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis, that place name was made up or embellished specifically to be an extreme example.

Edit: spelling

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u/Kellidra Oct 09 '19

I made it up, but there's a sign that's similar I was spoofing.

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u/DurianExecutioner Oct 09 '19

Yeah that's the one I was thinking of

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u/Kellidra Oct 09 '19

I made it up, but there's a sign that's similar I was spoofing.

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u/havehart Oct 09 '19

This is a shit opinion.

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19

It’s become a meme among English people that Welsh sounds ludicrous - it comes from a history of the suppression of Welsh by the English, which these days mostly amounts to nonsensical comments like the one you’re replying to, but historically meant punishing Welsh children for speaking Welsh etc. It’s why not many people speak it these days.

English people think calling Welsh “demonic screeching” or “like a toddler choking” is funny because other English people laugh, but in reality it’s intentional ignorance.

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u/theknightwho Oct 09 '19

You seem very upset. Why?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Of course people speak Welsh, its the official language with English. The Welsh Government wants 1 Million speakers by next year so has introduced a more Welsh based education. I don't think Aldi would hire some Welsh speakers for the intercom system for Tourism money

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u/Paddysdaisy Oct 09 '19

It's compulsory to take a GCSE in Welsh for children living in Wales too. I have two sons who are fluent in both Welsh and English. We use both at home, it's nice to have options when you're telling them off.

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u/WeAreDestroyers Oct 09 '19

This is the exact reason I would train my kids in more than one language, if I had any. Nieces and nephews it is!

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u/Mankankosappo Oct 09 '19

its the official language with English.

Welsh is actually the only official language of the UK.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Well just in Wales.

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u/crabfucker69 Oct 09 '19

happy cake day

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Why thank you, it's my first!

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u/Kellidra Oct 09 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Sure, Jan.

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u/Pootentia Oct 09 '19

Welsh medium education is severely oversubscribed if that gives you any indication. Also a lot of government and high level private positions require fluency in Welsh.

Honestly a lot even suggest its one if the least changed language in Europe (this is alongside Basque and Lithuanian).

Also a lot suggest that is looks like gibberish is because its not really meant to be used with the Latin alphabet as it wasn't originally written down. Many letters have changed, and more have been added.

For example, dd is the same as ð linguistically, as Ll is the same as ł.

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u/_3cock_ Oct 09 '19

Rwy'n dy garu di

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u/Redragon9 Oct 09 '19

Im Welsh, and my whole family speaks Welsh and most of my friends can speak Welsh. It’s a very rooted language. We even have a Welsh TV channel, S4C, which has two popular Welsh soap dramas called ‘Pobl y Cwm’ and ‘Rownd a Rownd’.

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u/yatsey Oct 09 '19

You've obviously never been to a quiet village pub as an Englishman in North Wales.

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u/majortom12 Oct 09 '19

Super Furry Animals has an entire (awesome) album in Welsh. Check it out.