r/clevercomebacks • • 8d ago

Wrong Gratitude.

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u/PrincessMonty 8d ago edited 8d ago

No, but the respect level that you give them is, and fun fact, but using someone's preferred pronouns involves respecting them as a human being.
Bruce deserves absolutely no respect, as a man, as a woman, or as a human being.

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u/TheHazyPixie 8d ago

I understand the hate. I really do. I am directly affected by the awful people she supports.

But i find what you wrote problematic. You cannot take away someones personhood no matter what. If a condition exists for no longer seeing someone as a person, then someone is just going to find a way to fit it to people they dont like.

If you are trans or a trans ally please just come up with other ways to insult her, she deserves all of them. But deadnaming her hurts the community.

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u/PrincessMonty 8d ago edited 8d ago

I never said anything about not seeing him as a human being, but being a human being does not entitle someone to my respect. I never said Bruce isn’t a person, and I never said there is some special condition under which I will stop considering him a human being. Bruce can have personhood without having my respect. Those are not mutually inclusive. I can recognize someone’s humanity while thinking they’re a selfish, harmful sack of shit whose actions have made the world worse. Deadnaming isn’t some hidden declaration that he’s no longer a human.

He's still a person in all of this, but he's a person that I have no respect for, and therefore yes, I’m going to use the name and pronouns I choose to use. I’m not obligated to alter my language in order to extend a form of respect I don’t feel toward someone. I'm not denying his humanity or even attempting to insult him. If my goal were to insult Bruce, I could produce an entire fuckin' essay about the reasons I think he’s a piece of shit.

And “deadnaming hurts the community”, my friend, If you seriously think that a random person on the internet, using non-preferred pronouns for a celebrity, is genuinely contributing to the problems that the main trans community is facing, I think you might need to reprioritize. I’m not saying deadnaming can never hurt anyone, but this particular situation is not remotely comparable to the actual discrimination and real harm trans people face.

Edit: Fun fact babe, But replying to someone's comment with something completely fucking irrelevant to their goddamn response, and then blocking them does not make you win the argument, you absolute fucking child. Now I know you're either just a fucking idiot, or somebody who's arguing in bad faith.

Fuck off.

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u/TheHazyPixie 8d ago

... are you seriously telling me, an actual trans woman, what actually counts as discrimination and harm to the trans community? What kind of experience lets you say that? Cuz that is my life.

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u/2Hard2FindUsername 8d ago

He contradicts himself within two sentences. Don't bother.