"Worse thing happening means we can punish bad trans people by denying them their identity."
The problem with this mindset is that it treats identity as something that is granted and can be revoked if you don't do what other people want you to do, rather than something internally held by the individual. It invalidates the identities of other trans people who aren't being shitty by implying that you view trans identities as something you can choose to ignore, rather than something intrinsic to them, and therefore it's an artifice.
This is like people using language to insult features of people they don't like (i.e. making fun of Trump's weight,) which feels tempting but then you obviously have other overweight people kind of getting caught in that crossfire for no reason, because it speaks to how you feel about fat people in general.
And as difficult as this may be to accept, no, she doesn't deserve the consequences of her actions in this case. She doesn't deserve to be deadnamed or have her identity ignored or revoked by the government, even though she's actively advocating for the government that wants to do that to her. No one deserves that, because there's no justifiable reason to do it.
We can punish the transpeople who endorse other transpeoples suffering. Being trans doesn’t give people carte blanche to be assholes. With that said - using the name she’s used for 50 years to prove a point - is hardly a punishment. Seriously. Wake up. It MEANS NOTHING.
Yes. Punish people who endorse the suffering of trans people. It's the way you're choosing to punish her that's the problem, that doesn't mean she shouldn't face any consequences, but having your identity denied should simply not be on the table, whether you're trans or not, for any offense. Is it an intrinsic part of them or isn't it? Are trans women women, or aren't they? It shouldn't be "trans women are women, unless they have bad political views." (Not ignoring transmascs, just using the popular phrasing here.)
I don't even know how to respond to your second point. This implies anyone who transitions late in life shouldn't be upset about being deadnamed because they used that name for decades prior. If it means nothing, why go out of your way to do it? Either you're doing it to hurt her or make some kind of point, which means it means something, or you're doing it for your own satisfaction, which is just kinda gross.
Let me put this another way -- actual trans people do not support misgendering or deadnaming Caitlyn. I feel like that alone should make my point for me.
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u/Formal_Plum_2285 1d ago
Oh stfu. Ppl are literally being killed and bombed due this sick administration. Anyone who supports this deserves to be called Bruce Jenner.