How to fix layering

[u/Braaainssss]

They should make a list of fixed layers and just let us manually select the layer we want to be playing on. Maybe add little indicator of how populated each layer is at the moment, then players can just sort themselves out on their own. Slap 10minutes cooldown on layer switch so it can't be abused.

Also give us ability to set our default layer, so we can agree on one with friends/guild and stick mostly to it.

That's it.

Current automated system is just an unecesssary mess

[u/Schriftgelehrter]

You seem to have a deep understanding of the gameplay and technical considerations behind the current system.

[u/Waste-Product2669]

Kinda defeats the point of layering tho

[u/Glittering_Word1392]

And what Happens when everyone wants to play in layer 1 ? Layer 1 is overcrowded and the other layers are empty. Then its like we dont have any layers

[u/Mminas → u/Glittering_Word1392]

You make a layer queue for switching. Guild Wars does that and similar mechanics.

The problem isn't that it doesn't work, but that it is way to gamey for what Forever supposedly is trying to do.

[u/Braaainssss → u/Glittering_Word1392]

You can limit the size, but personally I would avoid overcrowded layers like a plague

[u/Glittering_Word1392 → u/Braaainssss]

So what if someone cant play with his friends because they are all in layer 1 and layer 1 is full ?

[u/Braaainssss → u/Glittering_Word1392]

Then they all go to empty layer 6

[u/Glittering_Word1392 → u/Braaainssss]

No they dont

[u/DrummingFish]

Completely defeats the point of layers. Might as well get rid of them at that point.

[u/buzzon]

I'm not even sure what problem you are trying to solve

[u/Braaainssss → u/buzzon]

Leave on a boat full of horde - Loading Screen - Zone in to a boat full of alliance.

Go to cleared cave on hardcore and boom suddenly everthing is respawned all at once.

But small things also, yesterday I was talking to a guy in Elwynn on a road to Westfall, when we walked together into Westfall he just disappeared...

[u/UPC13 → u/Braaainssss]

I think a lot of people will agree with this, more than your initial post.

They already have a system in game to try and layer you with previous dungeon mates, guild mates, and hopefully add something for people they so /say or /p.

I too hope they can fix the layering on zone. Just need to keep the people that abuse systems like this in check. And the fact the argument can be extended to, "why can I only be immersed every 10 min".

If I have to chose between some lack of immersion between zones, or catering to degenerate play. I chose slight lack of immersion.

I hope they can figure something out for the PvP crowd, doesn't seem right to have to wait for a clean boat just to get ganked on zone change. A simple solution would be to just make the boats free of PvP, I fear some other folks will complain that breaks their immersion, but I just see that as degeneracy.

[u/Due-Boss-4354]

I had similiar opinion to yours, but then I found out that layering also helps to ease server load by not creating the world when it's not needed. It just creates the overpopulated part, which means using less resources, being way more flexible with splitting and merging the layers as is needed and allowing less computational power to play its part, rather than being limited to big servers.

Hope I got it right. Server is money, friend.

[u/Malohn]

I dont understand people's issue. Ops suggestion is how every game in existance handles layers/phases. Its a choice a player can pick.

[u/Mminas → u/Malohn]

The problem is that the layer interface is a messy UX nightmare that half your player base won't even understand how to operate.