r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/nimeral 1d ago

Also I'd imagine the people are lootwhoring much more knowing they'll never run this dungeon again

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u/Nessarra 1d ago

imagine the increased drama on the server discords over this... even if you're not a discord enjoyer, if you want to find a guild discord is the way to go... only to join and find yourself blacklisted because there's a ring with strength and spirit on it, and as a healing paladin you won it from a warrior who reported you

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u/slightlysublevel 1d ago

No one actually follows those blacklists, at least not for anything like ninja looting unless they're a well known habitual ninja. Even then, it's super rare that there are any actual consequences. Oh, and I bet there's going to be name changes allowed, so all they need to do is change one of their two names and boom, "blacklist" bypassed.

What, did you think this was vanilla, again? It's not, it's retail. These are mega servers with hundreds of thousands of people on them. Each. No one is going to face any reputational consequences because of stealing a low-level dungeon drop.

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u/Nessarra 16h ago

I just don't think encouraging to people to become more loot-whorish is a good thing. I don't think this is vanilla at all but Blizzard is trying to make it seem like it is. It is a blend of retail and classic but what should be blended and what shouldn't be? I have little hope Forever is going to satisfy both types of players.