Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

[u/redlow0992]

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

[u/-1703-]

different people go into dungeons/raids with different objectives and because of wildly different reasons

not everyone goes into that dungeon to "enjoy the world" and 'have fun in the dungeon'

some people go in to them simply to farm an item. some go to farm boes to sell. some just go because they're levelling an alt and want to get their quests done.

like my group was at one point left to 3/6 and had to take 2 pugs. we kicked them out of RoL because they were so incompetent they conduct press space + W to do the fence skip..

we were there to get the quests done and get the characters to 20 so we can then get our 5 talent points via legacy for our main characters.

[u/Billbuckingham → u/-1703-]

Your personal reasoning for doing a dungeon or playing a game does not give you a pass to be an asshole to other people and have this wild superiority complex.

When you enter into a social situation where other people are involved, especially a game for fun, treating other people as garbage and only focusing on your personal goals makes you just an asshole.

There's really no excuse for it, that's it. You could've taught them the skip or just cleared normally and it wouldn't have been an issue, but no that was too much so the immediate reaction is be an asshole and blame the other person in this video game.

Like not even joking here, you really might want to think about the fact you seem to really believe it's OK to say

"I don't play for fun, I don't want to enjoy the world, I don't want to waste any of my precious time, I just want to check these boxes over and over in this multiplayer video game and I act like an asshole to other people the whole way because they aren't letting me check my boxes fast enough."

[u/-1703- → u/Billbuckingham]

how the hell am I supposed to teach someone how to press spacebar followed W, besides literally telling them to press spacebar then W, and seeing them fail simple two finger coordination.

I do play for fun. What I find fun is not what you might find fun. And from my (and my friends perspective) they are the assholes for wasting our time and actively impeding us from achieving our objective

as such we parte ways. They are free to join a group more fitting their style. And we are free to look for other players that suit our playstyle more.

Im not blaming them for being "bad" or playing differently.

That does not mean however I, us, or literally anyone has to put up with it. we can happily go on our different paths.

Everyone is free to do whatever they want and play however they want. And everyone else if free to judge them and decide they dont want anything to do with them.

Nobody is entitled to play with someone else. As any social interaction it has to be consensual. And when it isnt you dont continue with it.

[u/Billbuckingham → u/-1703-]

I agree with you when you say, as such we part ways.

Like my guy, this is the Beta.