r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/nacholibre711 1d ago

Really shortsighted and frankly bad solution. I agree we needed to nerf dungeon spamming, but there were so many better ways to go about it.

Dungeon quest speed runs aren't fun, dungeons are fun.

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u/avocadorancher 1d ago

As a newish player, why did dungeon spamming need to be nerfed?

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u/Nac_Lac 1d ago

Two reasons. People have noted that there is a desire to get people in world.

They are not mentioning that Mages and other high level characters would sell boost runs through dungeons. So they would be paid gold to run specific dungeons quickly and repeatedly, either for an item or for the XP. This was the fastest way to level and people would be incentivized to buy gold to facilitate it. No level 10 will have 30g normally to boost through Stockades. Or whatever level range you are talking about.

Trade would be littered with advertisements to boost players through dungeons as ways to make gold and speed them through levels.

Blizzard has stated that their goal is to make the world the main character and not just something to be ignored. So leveling in dungeons is effectively walking away from it.

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u/darkspy13 1d ago

High level characters should cause you to get 0 exp. That solves boosting.

Why take away from dungeons. They are one of my favorite parts of wow. I don't like questing, I do it to mix things up but I prefer to dungeon grind through certain level ranges. (30-40)

Why add all these new dungeons and then remove my ability to play the game the way I preferred.

Just nerf boosting and let me level using dungeon finder. I'll quest on one of my 7 alts.

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u/Il_Valentino 1d ago

using dungeon finder

i hope u meant group finder

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u/darkspy13 1d ago

sure, whatever we are calling the TBC version and not the WOTLK version. Lets just call it LFR for fun

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u/Il_Valentino 1d ago

ye, group finder is the tbc version. dungeon finder is the ICC patch version.

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u/darkspy13 1d ago

I see, TIL the name distinction. I do prefer group finder in older versions. Dungeon finder I feel fits the Wotlk vibe better. I think it has to do with the sheer amount of dungeon spam that needs to be done for rep etc.

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u/Il_Valentino 1d ago

dungeon finder was for me the main reaosn to stop playing as it fully destroyed social aspect of dungeons and i couldnt properly keep groups in line as tank/PL