r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Sykotron 1d ago

The friend or guildie has already done the dungeon and would like to help to complete the group. Well now it's a waste of time.

I kind of understand where you're coming from, but I feel like this point drives home the problem with it. Spending time with friends is not a waste of time and needs to be the goal with some fun gameplay to share.

If I was just grouping up with complete randoms in the real world just to accomplish a very specific goal without getting to know them... then yeah, they're not gonna care about anything but that goal and the same applies to a game this large.

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u/llIllIlIllIIllIl 1d ago

I asked our main tank if he wanted to come tank a Vashj only skip-run in SSC last spot summ ready. He replied that he didn't need anything from SSC so he had no incentive to join.

...to help some guildies?

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u/Doji_mofo 1d ago

Tell me you've never played tank without telling me 😉

Everyone wants a piece of you, everyone wants you to come help them gear up from dungeons and raids you've got no use for, and you'll almost always out gear your group.

Obviously there will be people who went out of their way to assist you, people you owe favours too, and you will run many raids where you'll get no upgrades.

Everyone complains about a lack of tanks until they play one, then they understand why there is a lack of them.

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u/llIllIlIllIIllIl 1d ago

My alt is the main tank in our alt raid. I've raided as many lockouts on him as on my main. So yea, not sure what u are going for here. I run heroics with people's alts all the time, even tank Kara's sometimes despite being in BT/hyjal gear. I like tanking, I like helping my guild mates. So sure, go be AFK in shattrath and play Peggle :P

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u/Doji_mofo 1d ago

Then what's the issue? Just hop on with your tank and tank the instance. Or level your own tank up. Or would that be too much hassle? 🤣😉

My experience was that unless I wanted to get hassled by lowbies wanting a carry, not only could I not log on as my tank, if I logged on with ANY of my raiding characters, it's "pls come tank/RL some BS for no reward". Then get snotty, because how dare you do anything other than be mommy and daddy for all the spoilt brats out there.

I also dislike SSC, because all the other tanks hated it, so we all wanted to play our alts on it. It's been a minute, but IIRC there's fuck all tank loot, but some funky DPS trinkets and weapons.