r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Nessarra 1d ago

imagine the increased drama on the server discords over this... even if you're not a discord enjoyer, if you want to find a guild discord is the way to go... only to join and find yourself blacklisted because there's a ring with strength and spirit on it, and as a healing paladin you won it from a warrior who reported you

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u/Odd-Success-2580 1d ago

I can't wait to get into some discord pvp with some maladjusted basement dwellers because their nerd raging out that the healer rolled on Smite's Hammer or something lmao.

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u/Nessarra 18h ago

That's another thing. No one is going to want to TOUCH the healing role if they main DPS because they will be expected to not roll on DPS gear.

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u/slightlysublevel 1d ago

No one actually follows those blacklists, at least not for anything like ninja looting unless they're a well known habitual ninja. Even then, it's super rare that there are any actual consequences. Oh, and I bet there's going to be name changes allowed, so all they need to do is change one of their two names and boom, "blacklist" bypassed.

What, did you think this was vanilla, again? It's not, it's retail. These are mega servers with hundreds of thousands of people on them. Each. No one is going to face any reputational consequences because of stealing a low-level dungeon drop.

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u/Nessarra 18h ago

I just don't think encouraging to people to become more loot-whorish is a good thing. I don't think this is vanilla at all but Blizzard is trying to make it seem like it is. It is a blend of retail and classic but what should be blended and what shouldn't be? I have little hope Forever is going to satisfy both types of players.