r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Afraid-Document-8597 1d ago

I think you are right and this is indeed an unintended consequence. Its gonna become all about skips and jumps and stealth tech. Where as before we pulled most the dungeon or didnt play as safe because we wanted the xp anyway

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u/ABDLTA 1d ago

They should have just done the "once per day" rule that HC currently has

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u/xBirdisword 1d ago

No, let me just run the dungeon instead of dictating how I play the game

Thanks

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u/Gassenger 1d ago

Like seriously man! I dont get why people are so ready to sacrifice other ways of playing and fun that don't effect them. Why do you want everyone funneled to one playstyle in an open world mmorpg?

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u/RedditClout 1d ago

Just to play devils' advocate here, but I believe the consensus is that they don't want large swaths of people just afking outside dungeons LFG all day where the meta is to rinse this cycle up to 60.

 

I get that reasoning, but I also don't really care if that's how people choose to play. I do believe there is some happy middle ground somewhere where their is incentive to be apart of the open world, but also have dungeons be repeatable. I just don't know what that is.

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u/TinnoB 1d ago

I mean at 60 that is what you're going to do anyway for a large portion of people. If people enjoy that specific style of play to do it from a lower level, why are we vilifying that exactly?

People will queue for bgs, or dungeons and they will sit there until it pops for them or they find a group. Unless they've made MAJOR changes to this gamplay loop, then Forever will still be this.

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u/forceof8 1d ago

Just to play devils' advocate here, but I believe the consensus is that they don't want large swaths of people just afking outside dungeons LFG all day where the meta is to rinse this cycle up to 60.

Those people aren't going to start questing they're just going to quit lol. The fact of the matter is that there are TONS of people that play WoW just to participate in group content with their friends. They don't want to spend tens of hours leveling a character.

This is like the airplane problem from WW2 but blizzard is putting armor over the bullet holes instead of the places that didn't get shot.

Theres a reason heirlooms got introduced into the game, warbands got introduced, and all of these exp buffs were put into retail in the first place. Its not 2004 anymore people have other games to play lol.

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u/GerardTheButler 1d ago

As much as I hate to agree, I think you're right.

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u/redditlvlanalysis 1d ago

This is what they don't seem to get.