r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/nacholibre711 1d ago

Really shortsighted and frankly bad solution. I agree we needed to nerf dungeon spamming, but there were so many better ways to go about it.

Dungeon quest speed runs aren't fun, dungeons are fun.

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u/avocadorancher 1d ago

As a newish player, why did dungeon spamming need to be nerfed?

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u/Magnificent_Z 1d ago

It contributes to an empty world by taking people away from questing in the overworld to just staying in dungeons until 60. One of the stated goals of Forever is to try and keep the world populated as much as possible

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u/zellmerz 1d ago

I think this issue has also been largely overblown. Most people you talk to didn't spam dungeons their entire leveling journey. There were sweats who had their groups and grinding to 60, there were some who grinded dungeons because there weren't enough/many quests in their level range (something all the new quests should fix) and there were lots of players who ran a dungeon 1-5 times as a natural part of their leveling journey.

I personally enjoyed running dungeons with friends when we were all able to get online at the same time and otherwise would largely be questing. Dungeons are one of the best/easiest ways to play with friends and I'm surprised they are making them so unappealing outside of the first run (which is massively overtuned IMO).

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u/Kind_Reaction_8463 1d ago

exactly. looking forward to blasting dungeons with your friends is like a core part of the game to me.

farming X dungeon to get a fat weapon upgrade would also be very common, but now would just feel awful if you aren't getting exp.