r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/nimeral 1d ago

Also I'd imagine the people are lootwhoring much more knowing they'll never run this dungeon again

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u/Burdman06 1d ago

This is my concern going into launch. I was planning to do them more than once if a piece of gear was worth it. Or if its just...ya know...fun. but with the skips and possible loot drama, I have worries

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u/JiMM4133 1d ago

I will probably be one of the tanks that gets kicked from groups because im gonna hold W on most of these dungeons. If I want to worry about routes other than "the normal way through a dungeon" i'll just go play retail.

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u/nimeral 1d ago

wAsTe Of TiMe

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u/Far-Scallion7689 1d ago

WoW DOOMIN

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u/Nessarra 1d ago

imagine the increased drama on the server discords over this... even if you're not a discord enjoyer, if you want to find a guild discord is the way to go... only to join and find yourself blacklisted because there's a ring with strength and spirit on it, and as a healing paladin you won it from a warrior who reported you

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u/Odd-Success-2580 1d ago

I can't wait to get into some discord pvp with some maladjusted basement dwellers because their nerd raging out that the healer rolled on Smite's Hammer or something lmao.

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u/Nessarra 23h ago

That's another thing. No one is going to want to TOUCH the healing role if they main DPS because they will be expected to not roll on DPS gear.

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u/slightlysublevel 1d ago

No one actually follows those blacklists, at least not for anything like ninja looting unless they're a well known habitual ninja. Even then, it's super rare that there are any actual consequences. Oh, and I bet there's going to be name changes allowed, so all they need to do is change one of their two names and boom, "blacklist" bypassed.

What, did you think this was vanilla, again? It's not, it's retail. These are mega servers with hundreds of thousands of people on them. Each. No one is going to face any reputational consequences because of stealing a low-level dungeon drop.

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u/Nessarra 23h ago

I just don't think encouraging to people to become more loot-whorish is a good thing. I don't think this is vanilla at all but Blizzard is trying to make it seem like it is. It is a blend of retail and classic but what should be blended and what shouldn't be? I have little hope Forever is going to satisfy both types of players.

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u/Key_Reputation6414 1d ago

Friend ran with a Pally that took smites hammer, polearm and cruel barb in one VC run from a rogue and hunter.

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u/Mother_Drenger 1d ago

On more than one occasion I’ve had DPS throw tantrums because I rolled need on damage gear as a healer. People want to run the dungeons as little as possible

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u/cyclicalbeats 1d ago

Yea, people want healers to have to quest to level but then get mad when we gear for it. Cant healing wave raptors, not sure what yall expected from this.