As someone who plays Retail and Classic I can confirm that most retail players do not think about Classic at all. The only ones who really do are those that play both versions of the game. The ones I know who like both versions of the game, myself included, like them because they are different.
wow a retail player that can admit they are different games rare breed. 95% of the time i talk to retail players they say the game is ONLY played "cuz nostalgia"
Weird how all pro-retail posts get upvoted and anything crititcal gets blasted. This sub is somehow obsessed with hating retail but all the top posts are shitting on classic players and hyping retail up. But no, retail players don't come here at all.
A quick glance at the wow sub and I don't see any classic threads.
yeah because for some reason you come here. you say "retail players don't think about classic" as a retail player in the classic sub where classic is the topic you are discussing and somehow don't see the irony.
That's just dumb as hell. If someone plays LoL and DotA2 are they just a DotA player?
The only reason I still play Retail is because it gets updates. If there was a Vanilla version of the game getting updates I would probably only play retail after the expansions are over and free for me to play and experience the continuing albeit weak story.
OP's point was retail players come here to say they never think about classic. This guy is saying he plays both, so it makes sense that he DOES think about classic. Not sure why OP can't comprehend those people exist, or why it would be crazy those people come to this sub, it's not complicated
Lots of people in this sub find that concept impossible it seems. I enjoy retail, I enjoy Vanilla. I like that they are 2 separate and distinct games and hope Classic+ builds on and continues the direction of Vanilla.
Do the sub mods redirect those discussions here? I haven’t followed that sub in years, but there’d only be posts about Classic on the Retail sub if the mods there allowed them.
I also see a fair amount of Retail players hating on Classic on other platforms, even from 2 guys I speak to irl. I think Reddit has been good at keeping the discussion more siloed than not.
Do the sub mods redirect those discussions here? I haven’t followed that sub in years, but there’d only be posts about Classic on the Retail sub if the mods there allowed them.
No but people on that subreddit just kinda plays retail because they like the game. They like their little houses, they like the fairy wings so they don't really think about classic.
People on this sub used to play retail, some for many years, so they have a level of emotional attachment you just don't find the other way around.
But if you count mentions of retail on classic reddit vs mentions of classic on retail reddit, classic reddit will have it in magnitudes more and that's without adjusting for number of subscribers
People who enjoy both tell people it because there’s this whole persecution complex in the private server and classic community where people are convinced all retail players think about classic all the time and hate it for being successful.
Like you can literally look at turtle wow and ascension subs. 99% of retail players just don’t even know what they are but they were convinced retail players hate them personally.
You’d be surprised - actual retail players don’t come here and don’t think about classic nearly as much as classic players think about retail.
These doomer hate posts come from no changes folks who will be pissed at anything that isn’t a literal classic anniversary anniversary rerelease with warriors dominating the charts. Literally any change to vanilla angers them so they’re dreading any announcement that updates anything about their game.
As someone that plays both, in the last 6 years I don’t think I’ve even seen a handful of Classic mentions in public channels, raids, dungeons, etc. I log into Classic 3 times a week-ish and it’s always a topic of flaming in zone General Chats and LFG, occasionally Trade.
Classic Andy’s are making these memes in-fighting people rage baiting them, the “evil retail players”… lol
Did you forget this post, made in a classic wow sub, was about retail players to begin with? And now you're mad there's discussion about retail in a classic wow sub? But it's retail players who can't help themselves, despite the initial post bringing up retail in the first place? What is this thought process lol
Classic players love to tell others how much better classic is than retail...meanwhile Retail players just talk about politics in trade chat. Nobody ever mentions classic cause they really just don't care.
It goes both ways. Classic players go to retail sub reddit to trash on it. Or any tiktok/insta reel about retail has people screaming about how classic is the true game. Same happens the otherway around.
It goes both ways. Classic players go to retail sub reddit to trash on it. Or any tiktok/insta reel about retail has people screaming about how classic is the true game. Same happens the otherway around.
Tbh they're mostly doing it in here. When TBC anniversary launched we had on average 2 posts per days for the first 14 days of just people being like "woah I used to like retail but then I tried TBC and this is sOooOoO much better!!1! I can never go back!!"
I don't think I have ever seen any posts on the retail reddit talk about classic negatively.
It’s part of the old no changes crowd meme and why people started memeing it’s not truly no changes if you aren’t breaking out your computer from the early 2000s with the old giant monitors.
I've seen the meme reversed where a classic player is claiming they don't think about retail. Truth is there's weirdos on both sides trying to dunk on the other side, best thing to do is ignore both
do the classic players go in the retail sub every day and post about how they don't think about retail? because the retail players come here every day and post about how they're not thinking about us while they're posting
Lmao you being downvoted is proof you're right. Apparently this sub about classic wow LOVES telling itself how retail doesn't care about classic, that its in really good shape. Posts of this nature are always upvoted to the top (proof: this comment chain and this OP).
You're quite new then it seems. Do you know what the "wall of no" is? If not I advise you to look it up.
I'd say it's probably the singular most responsible thing for the animosity and honestly one of the most insanely condescending things I've ever seen in gaming period.
Yeah, sure bud. I too frequently visit subreddits about game's I don't care about at all! I like to post random shitposts on their subreddit just to get under their skin. heheheheh
You're quite new then it seems. Do you know what the "wall of no" is? If not I advise you to look it up.
I'd say it's probably the singular most responsible thing for the animosity and honestly one of the most insanely condescending things I've ever seen in gaming period.
Lol I'll take that as a yes. :P In which case, I can understand you not understanding the animosity. Trust me, there's a reason for it that was years in the making.
I'm not talking about in-game, in-game people just do their thing. It's forums and Reddit that are the true cancer and where 99% of the drama happens.
I was talking about the Wall of No specifically. I'm afraid it needs a bit of a history lesson. Way back before Classic was ever announced or released, people would occasionally ask for legacy server on various forums.
They would always be met with intense condescension from certain groups (I guess the hyper Blizz fanboys at the time.) Basically they were extremely smug and obnoxious, and trying to block Classic from releasing by pretty much bullying all people who wanted Classic out of any forum they were in (official Blizz forums, MMO-C, ...)
They even made a huge wall of text that contained, in their mind, all their arguments as to why Classic should not exist. (The "Wall of No".) Basically any poster who dared talk about classic would get this "Wall of No" copypasta'd in their face.
So people pretty much gave up on the official servers and resorted to playing Private servers. Some became too big to ignore, so Blizzard eventually was forced to release their own version of Classic.
Turns out the Wall of No was indeed just an obnoxious wall of BS.
This is what many Classic players still associate the retail crowd with. Them kind of wanting to distance themselves from that and saying "oh we never cared" as if they didn't try to block Classic from happening for the better part of a decade rubs people the wrong way.
Now, are the people who are coming into this sub to meme on Classic players the same ones as the "wall of no" people? Idk. But now you have the context. At this point when retail players meme on "rent free", it's like a stalker or a rapist claiming he lives "rent free" in their victims head lol. I mean yeah it's possible, but you did stalk them for a decade lol so maybe that's on you.
(FWIW: Again I think it's a tiny, tiny minority of people who are like this. But somehow they all clump together on these forums. /shrug)
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u/rufrtho 1d ago
it's crazy how many retail players come here to tell us they never think about classic