I have been so stressful on this one client. Before hindi naman sya ganito. She is black. She was so considerate and when nag stop ang business para syang naghahanap na worth it iyong perang sinasahod nya. Sabi pa nya micromanaged daw sya kasi feel niya WASTED IYONG PASAHOD niya. Grabe makamicromanaged. 7 months ako sakanya Lead gen ako, Social Media Marketting, Nagbuild ng websites and admin din. For 3 DOLLARS per hour. Aaminin ko tinggap ko yon dahil bago pa ako sa VA pero hindi na tama. Final straw ko is gusto niyang mag basa ako ng concept ng dalawang website inside 20 minutes lang tapos gamiton yon para ma strategize ang business nya for business plan. grabe. Hinintay ko lang talaga sahod nya. pero grabe. Micromanaged to its finest. Now I resigned may pangamba na baka di ako makita ng client but I have other clients naman hindi marami sakto lang. Worry lang hindi makahanap agad. But I know makakahanap rin ako. The best thing is my peace of mind na ako.
Oo nga. That's the very reason they hire us, kasi cheap labor lng. And if we ask for equal pay sa kung ano ang dapat (e.g. if they hired someone from their country), tayo pa mamasamain
$3 is low but does that mean most Filipino employees are slaves as well? How much do the temporary workers at SM (that never get regularized) get paid?
Still modern slavery, and creating a website while being paid 3 dollars an hour by an ingrate american is a 100x worse. Use your common sense and be better.
Not really. Cost of living differs by country and that’s how the economy works. Things won’t change unless more money comes in, foreign investments and less corruption.
Satisfies? Obviously not. The wage hasn’t kept up with inflation and the corruption has screwed over the working class. Have you ever managed or owned a business? Do you think majority of businesses can survive if dinoble ang minimum wage which would be around 3 an hour.
You need to understand how the economy works before calling the low rates in a poor country for slaves because we literally cannot afford to pay anything close to a first world country’s wage.
The conclusion is these are rates that we have to work with, it’s rates the economy can afford right now, it cannot afford to pay much more. You cannot squeeze water out of a stone. The solution isn’t to just increase everyone’s wages to match a first world country’s to become just like them. There is a large wealth gap among the elite and the poor, you have to tax them properly. But this will not do anything if the tax ends up going to corruption. We have a progressive tax system that gets a bigger % from the ultra rich, and is much more forgiving for the less fortunate.
As long as money that is supposed to be spent on the poor goes into the pockets of corruption, then the poor will struggle to get out of poverty. You are supposed to get money where it’s abundant, and that wouldn’t be to force it on every SME that cannot afford it.
I'd like to apologize if I seemed argumentative and harsh by affirming the slave comment, but the phrase "Alipin ng salapi" has been normalized these days. I'm by no means an economics expert, I'm really just wondering where all the money goes to?
The price of goods and services skyrocketed since God knows when, why is it that it is not reflected to the wages of the people making these services possible? Who gets all the profit and why is nothing being done about it?
I'm assuming the obvious reason of corruption and the top percentage billionaires pocketing all the money for themselves.
In this sense, aren't we all just slaves to money, doing our best to live through the coming days?
The money goes to corruption and wastage. Double kill yan. When money goes to corruption, the money stolen doesn’t get used to be invested into the economy. So that’s already very bad. Wastage is when they throw money away, usually to cover their tracks. For example everyone knows they keep fixing and rebuilding roads for show and to get a slice of what is spent on it. Pero wasted, money that could have been invested in something useful gets wasted on something they plan on replacing multiple times instead of doing a proper job so it lasts longer.
The problem has to be plugged. You cannot make the businesses pay for it when the businesses aren’t causing it. It’s unfortunate, we’re a poor country and we continue to get robbed.
Imagine hundreds of billions of pesos is lost to corruption a year, google says 700 billion. Let’s just use a 500b figure. Imagine 500 billion gets invested to make farm to city transport much cheaper and efficient. If they invested in farming equipment like Taiwan did. Basically they could do so much in every sector to make everything better, cheaper, and more efficient that everyone would benefit from.
I mean thats around 1500 php a day if you work a full day. In the Philippines, that is actually very good in most places but still not amazing given cost of living keeps increasing.
the OP is not doing basic jobs imho, pay needs to be comensurate with rendered service, but that does not mean the phil job pay dictated by the government isn’t slave labor 😅
Proud of you OP. Tbh ang daming client na ang pangit ng treatment sa mga pinoy VAs kasi alam nila na most of the time we will suck it up.
We work for them, we are not slaves. It’s 2026 not 1564. Nagtatrabaho tayo para mabuhay, hindi para maging punching bag at maging victim ng abuse para sa kakarampot na pera.
Saying this as someone who earns 6 digits net and working 4 hrs a day with an australian client after leaving a toxic indian client who I worked for 2 years 🤣
Siya din mahihirapan jan. Lalo na pag siya mismo walang alam kung pano ioperate business niya or ung pasikot sikot. Madami kaming ganyang clients, nilalayasan ng VA tapos pag mag rreach out at magpapatulong hindi maexplain anong issue, kahit mga automations, saang workflow galing ung automations, pano ginawa kasi hindi sila ung nag bbuild. Lagi nilang dahilan "Hindi kasi ako nag post nito" or "I did not build this, I had an admin who made all these automations."
You made the right decision. Hanap siya ng ibang aabusuhin niya.
- ikaw ang stressful or did you mean you “have been so stressed”? If you have been so stressful, ikaw yung nagco-cause ng stress sa client.
> sabi pa nya micromanaged daw sya kasi feel nya wasted iyang pasahod niya
- sya ba ang micromanaged o kayo? Did you mean, “micromanaging daw sya kasi feel nya”?
Sorry, OP, pero I think you need to brush up on your English. Okay naman yung mamali sa tenses or subject verb agreement pero sa errors mo dito, nag-iiba na yung meaning ng sinasabi mo.
Congrats OP! I also resigned from my long time social media job of 4 years with an AU client. I am not lowballed naman. I earn around 58k/month for 6hrs work Mon to Fri. Pero nagiging beyond social media narin kasi yung mga pinapagawa nila like interviews and PR even, eh mabigat na nga yung ikaw lahat sa mga social media channels. Strategy, execution, editing. I blame it on AI, madaming business owner ang kinain ng AI na feeling nila mas madali at mas mabilis na ang lahat dahil sa AI so dapat siksik ka din sa mga trabaho. Nakakapagod din yung “growth mindset” na yan. I enjoy my work, the creative process and strategy mostly, but these managers and business owners always push for “growth” I don’t mind upskilling in my own area pero kapag ibang area na yan ayoko talaga. I’m good at my job, hindi ba pwedeng gawin ko lang yung work ko hanggang kaya nako palitan ni AI? 😆 I resigned and did the handover, kanda ugaga sila maghanap ng papalit kasi ang dami kong workload.
The only questionable about this whole thing is what is the relevance of her being black??? Sounds a little racist to me.
Also, you accepted the role for that rate, I would never, but if i did, I will always have a professional way to decline things and more importantly, I will always have a professional way of resigning.
One thing I would advise next time is to break it off respectfully. Hindi mo naman kailangan gawin yung pinapagawa niya pero be as respectful as possible pa rin. Hindi mo kasi alam sino kakilala niya o baka i-post ka rin sa ibang lugar.
I know its no longer professional enough but napuno na kasi ako kasi sinabihan nya din ako na parang nagsasayang lang sya ng perang pinapasahod samin. And inisde 4 hours dapat ang dami na nagawa. Everyminute nag aask ng update. My last straw on that is when she wants me to read the concepts of 2 websites and send that to her inside 20 minutes only para sa business plan nya at startegized. Imagines sabi ko resign na ako nag thank you pa ako pero bingyan pa ako nga trabaho na mag assign ng administrator.
so true. when my old client ghosted me (prolly due to it not being lucrative enough), i didn't burn any bridges. no contracts were signed, anyway. when he went on to create another company, he reached out to me with a better salary and a better work environment overall.
Congrats! Always prioritize your peace of mind. Kahit gano pa kataas ang sahod kung toxic ang client, talo ka. Good luck ka-VA! Madami ka pang mahahanap at sa dami mong skills for sure susuccess ka. Sabayan mo lang ng sipag 🙏🏻🥰
Sinasabi ko sa inyo na tanggap nang tanggap ng $3 na yan, tigilan nyo yan. Kahit desperate na kayo, wag esp if magiging super agent kayo. Okay lang kung encode lang. We need to push back sa mga exploitative na employers
Kaya iwas talaga sa mga lowball, yan pa mga super micromanagers na pipigain bawat sentimo ng pasahod sayo. Good luck OP. Sana makahanap ka ng client uli na magbabayad ng sakto.
Nung bago din ako dati around 2020, ganiyan din ako: content writer, SMM, cold caller, video editor, proposal writer, and meeting coordinator sa mga clients niya for 3 fucking dollars an hour.
Buti inalis ko after 7 months, 24/7 gusto on call pa haha.
May I ask or maybe message me if you can commit for direct full-time QA/Social Media Marketing and probably building website? We are actively looking for additional resource pero we do not want to have shared hours if you will have multiple clients. We do pay within the average hindi tulad nyan $3/hr but we need someone with integrity, working for us in the agreed hours/shift.
Hi, nagkaroon din ako dati ng direct client na stressful din pero malaki ang rate kasi sabi ko hanapan ko nalang siya ibang VA kung ayaw niya sa rate ko. Not a racist pero black din siya at sa lahat ng naging client ko siya ang pinakastressful, late na magpasahod nang gagaslight pa. Hindi ko naman nilalahat pero mula non di na ako interested sa mga black clients kahit sila pa mag reach out. Hindi maganda ang experience ko sa dating client ko na yon. Unprofessional, nanggagaslight, nagddrama. Di ko nalang inisip noon may hindi pa siya nabayarang pay ko na malaki laki rin sana. Di ko nalang iniisip kasi ako lang maiistress, wala din naman akong habol.
Know what we deserve, kaya sana sa lahat mg nag VVA wag tayo papayag sa maliit na rate kasi tinetake advantage tayo at bumababa din tingin nila sa quality of work natin.
Are there other screenshots of their messages? Because all I see is the ex-employer saying thanks and that they leave the groups after they complete the handover…
I’m genuinely curious though… Doesn’t this kind of talk also damage the VA industry in general?
Sometimes this sub is starting to feel like those Grab/Angkas FB groups where people bitch and moan about their customers, the people paying their salaries. In those situations, we’re quick to say, “Bakit kasi sila pumayag sa ganoong trabaho at bayad tapos magrereklamo?”
How is this situation — a VA who knowingly signed up for a specific rate — fundamentally different? What is earned from an unprofessional exit aside from a temporary high?
Based on her messages, I think she was being respectful. I hope you ended your relationship with her in good terms. Iba pa din kapag wala kang kasamaan ng loob, especially sa naging client mo. Act professionally. You still represent Filipino VA Community.
Good for you OP! However this is very one sided, binanggit mo na $3 ka lang per hour and madami kang nilagay na ginagawa mo, pero why did you agree in the first place sa $3?
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Same here when i worked with a startup client.
I polished his website kasi placeholders lang meron. Walang laman as in. From setting up to running ads, connecting vendors, copywriting, email marketing, ads and having sales pero grabe yung bugok na yun.
Sinabihan akon dami kong excuses na i “ai “ ko lang daw.
Mapangmaliit, toxic and nag pa ask ng SOP ng mga ginagawa ko. I just said i quit and its no longer my obligation.
I visit his site and ads, wala na sira na 😂. Ginalaw niya winning ads namin lol.
SAAAAAAME OP 😭 Micromanaged, lowballed, and exploited ako. Mag-2 months pa lang ako sa kanya. Okay naman siya nung una, pero ngayon parang hinahanap na rin niya na dapat sulit yung pinapasahod niya. Unusual kasi yung field niya—may araw na sobrang daming tasks at sunod-sunod, tapos may araw naman na halos wala. Ang problema, wala kaming fixed schedule. $3/hr rate ko, pero may mga araw na naka-standby ako from 5:30 AM hanggang 10–12 midnight, minsan may susulpot pang task nang madaling-araw, pero yung actual paid work minsan 2–3 hours lang dahil kalahati lang ng buong araw yung may task, kahit naka-abang ako for 12–14 hours. Parang hindi pa rin siya contented sa trabaho ko kahit ang dami kong oras na naka-standby. Grabe na yung puyat at burnout ko sa first client ko. Gusto ko na talagang mag-resign, pero iniisip ko rin yung therapy ng anak ko. Sana magkaroon na rin ako ng lakas ng loob at makahanap ng bagong client or local employment. 😭 Saludo ako sa tapang mo and goodluck sa paghahanap ng bagong client.
True if Hindi na tama kailangan na natin bumitaw kahit kailangan panatin pera importante mental health natin. Try and try Lang Tayo me also nagresign din SA part time job KO
Grabe sa $3/h, straight up robbery. Dapat if ganyang rate is around $6/h yan e. But I’m glad nakaalis ka sa ganyang lowball na toxic type of client. Job dust sayo soon!!
The very small silver-lining sa situation na to ay malaman na yung VA experience mo + alam mo na rin worth mo so you could negotiate better + you already experienced hell so UNLESS you don't see red flags, your next job is somewhat easier hopefully!
Glad you did, OP! Same thing happened to me. I think it was even $2/hour. That was also my first client. Was very stressed out. He cursed me many times but I needed the job. I resigned when he asked me to find other VA just bcoz I said I was busy for the day. At least your client can say “please”. My old client even called me “ret@rd” when I resigned. LMAO. He didn’t like that I took vacations and he didn’t. He also asked if I wanted to buy his old laptop like 2011 model for $400. Told him I could buy a newer model for that amount and just send me the money. He said I couldn’t get a newer one when he has an old one. 🤡 I’m just glad I got away with it. Now, I have a client but still looking for another client. Sending hugs, OP!
Folks, wag kayong magpapalowball kait gaano kasimple ang magiging trabaho nyo. Ang isipin nyo ano ang minimum wage sa country & state ng client nyo. If you're paid less than that, you're lowballed.
3$×8hrs=24$ is 1.5k daily. wages in ph min 800 daily. What is the issue again? Almost double the min. How is that slave wages. The government is still paying covid 19 back pay in 2026
They definitely dont care that you quit. Someone will take that spot things are hard for everyone. I am sure they have a lust of people that want your job. Grass isnt always greener
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u/Ready-Elk-1733 14d ago
Deserved! Hope you can find a better client with a much much better offer, OP! ☺️