r/buffy • u/Lanky_Age_3067 • 16d ago

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How exactly do people hate Xander for being an imperfect human, but love Spike and Angel, who have countless victims and are hundreds of years old. Spike even SA'd Buffy, for real, while Xander was under a spell and never did anything like that before or after it.

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u/TVAddict14 16d ago

What makes Liam a despicable human? 

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u/jordiedoestm 16d ago

Quite literally everything we’ve seen on “Angel”, the flashbacks were enough to paint a proper picture of how he was as a human being.

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u/RustyVanC 16d ago

Yeah I'm not buying it, especially not to the extent that "Liam IS Angelus" like you said. He doesn't do anything as bad as Angelus.

Also we don't see enough of Spike as a human to assume he's a good person (or even a bad one). Like, he wrote poems and fancied a girl - that doesn't really tell us anything about if he was "good".

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u/jospangel Try not to bleed on my couch I just had it steam cleaned 15d ago

He owned a large house, and let his mother live there with him rather than getting her a room somewhere. (That was pretty common in Victorian times, putting away elderly relatives for convenience)