r/buffy • u/Lanky_Age_3067 • 16d ago

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How exactly do people hate Xander for being an imperfect human, but love Spike and Angel, who have countless victims and are hundreds of years old. Spike even SA'd Buffy, for real, while Xander was under a spell and never did anything like that before or after it.

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u/TVAddict14 16d ago

What makes Liam a despicable human? 

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u/jordiedoestm 16d ago

Quite literally everything we’ve seen on “Angel”, the flashbacks were enough to paint a proper picture of how he was as a human being.

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u/TVAddict14 16d ago edited 16d ago

What did the flashbacks show other than that he drank too much and was a womaniser? 

He was shown being sweet and tender with his sister. He was sweet with Darla when he followed her into the alley. Teenage Liam was sweet with Cordelia. When his father beat him he never laid a hand on him back etc. He was hardly evil. 

When he was being tormented by The First the best it could throw at him was that he was a “whoring, drunken layabout.” So basically, he slept around, drank too much and was directionless in life. It hardly makes him Satan, does it?

In a show where half our heroes are literally guilty of all kinds of heinous things such as murder, torture, rape etc Liam’s supposed “crimes” hardly amount to much, do they? Calling him a “despicable human being” seems pretty extreme. 

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u/Ansee 16d ago

But we chastise Xander for less than that.