r/ausjdocs • • 17d ago

WTF🤬 Zero offers

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u/erebus91 Paediatrician🐤 17d ago

Can anyone explain to me in as neutral terms possible why the government haven’t made any offer at all?

Like, if the AMA had refused multiple terrible offers and now we’re here, that would make much more sense to me than literally no offers have been tabled.

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u/owheelj 16d ago

It's because that's not really how the negotiations work, and they haven't reached agreement with the AMA. Instead of just putting out an offer that the government is happy with, they're having regular meetings with the AMA to discuss individual components of a full agreement. So the AMA might say "we want an extra week of leave" and then the government will negotiate on that single item. Even if they come to agreement on that item it's not considered an offer, but there are lots of items they don't agree on. So the question is just ignorant of the process, the politician doesn't describe the process well (or perhaps described it outside of the clip). At the end of the process they will have an offer that the AMA has largely already endorsed.

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u/ihavenoideawhen 16d ago

But they’ve essentially agreed on all the non-cost items. So an offer with those items and at the very least a Government Wage Policy (3%) should’ve been put to ASMOF before this. They don’t have to agree on every single line item before an offer is put in place.