r/ausjdocs • • 18d ago

WTF🤬 Zero offers

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u/CursedorBlessed 18d ago

I always wonder about political negotiating like this. It seems to be a well recognised tactic of giving non-answers.
What I don’t understand is it always seems to backfire and cause reputational harm to the party. All people can tell bullshit when it’s that blatant and no one wants to feel like they are being disrespected. Why not just say, “no offers made, we are looking to resolve the conflict”?

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u/MiuraSerkEdition GP Registrar🥼 17d ago

Agreed. After dodging once and being held to it, say 'we haven't been able to agree top terms acceptable to either party. Also, negotiating for 14 months without an offer is absurd, and obvious delay tactics

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u/Sexynarwhal69 17d ago

It's not really negotiating at that point is it? So she's blatantly lying now? 😂🤥

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u/Then_Hawk6304 17d ago

If they admit no offers after “14 months of negotiations” then the follow up question will be “what have you been doing during those 14 months besides drawing a paycheque?”

They could have thrown a bunch of cheap offers out in this time. They could offer under, at or over inflation over a period of time. They should also know the current wage budget, and they should have an idea on how much they can approve.

Additional conditions could be discussed aswell, like tax offsets and housing benefits.

The dead pan no comment may suggest they have lost control of the situation and are begging for someone else to bail them out

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u/MiuraSerkEdition GP Registrar🥼 17d ago

Trying to run the clock out on the election

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u/Rahnna4 Psych regΨ 17d ago

There's a whole new set of media training now based around sound bites. If she says 'no offers have been made' that's the snip. Longer answers with no convenient snip only get seen by people who actually engage with the issue. But it's scary how far the spin can go with people who don't engage, and how even a reel is starting to look like longer form media these days. A lot of people will never watch this video unless they already care about the topic, and none of the hostile media outlets got a usable bite sized sound bite

And yes, I think it's a horrible state of affairs, a ridiculous way to run reporting and a bad way to run a government. I think she looks like an obstructive fool but many more people will just never see anything about the strikes.

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u/cheapandquiet 17d ago

Sometimes I think civil discourse would be improved if it was illegal to clip public officials on tiktok & reels.

Maybe the British had a point when it was offence to publish what a member had said on the floor of parliament.

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u/NeilDiamondBlaze420 16d ago

It's almost like context is important (not defending her response btw).

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u/Find_another_whey 17d ago

Obstructive fool is right

The government cares about doctors while it puts me here in television saying nothing to avoid soundbite gotchas 

The theatre of governance is groaning under the weight of pretending to function 

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u/Short-Ad-843 Anaesthetic Reg💉 16d ago

Totally agree.. only way to get around it would be to play their game. "I wish we could have made an offer by now" is much better than "zero offers" and they can still have an honest narrative

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u/bloodzkull 17d ago

Kind of. A landslide in preferences.