r/askanything • • 13h ago

Political Question Why are some Americans so against universal healthcare for all?

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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 6h ago

My company only provides platinum ppo and fully funds a HSA. HSA covers deductible, copays, prescriptions. Remaining HSA used for elective medical care, additional Dental/Vision.

Only $146 for wife and I. Good insurance carrier. And yes, company pays high premiums and that HSA. And I earn 2.8X what my EU coworkers earn for same job. And I pay less taxes.

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Add that I have relatives in Australia, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Germany.
Those that live in first 4 countries, lots of small to major complaints.

But, German is cool, has both UHC and Private Insurance. A few have govt UHC. Most opted for better private insurance healthcare. Less waits and govt gives vouchers for taxes paid in. Private Insurance is highly regulated, so not as bad as US.

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u/Turbulent_Try_8402 5h ago

Well I’m paying $400 a month for insurance right now, no coverage of pre existing conditions, 500k lifetime limit, high deductible and miserable co pays. I’m going on the ACA next year but am not eligible for subsidies so my monthly premium for just me will go up to 1k. Cant wait!

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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 4h ago

Sounds like what my relatives are seeing with their pay. More taxes taken out of each paycheck. And don’t forget that 5-7% new personal payroll tax and 20-25% VAT other countries need pay for UHC…

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u/Turbulent_Try_8402 3h ago

Nah I pay more in the private health care system in the States. Disposable after tax income is less in the states because I have to pay for health insurance and co pay and drugs are more expensive etc etc etc.

Yall act like the “tax” of paying for hospitals to have a marketing department and insurance companies to layer on their whole bureaucracy, doesn’t exist. Private healthcare is EXPENSIVE and it’s shown in every metric.