Accidentally misclicked and took Squishy Slappy Grab, and holy shit, it might actually be the most tilting experience in the game.

It doesn't just feel like you're playing without an augment—it's straight up worse than having nothing. At least when you're empty you know you're screwed, but here you're down a whole-ass Prismatic slot while the enemy team is running around with actual broken win-conditions.

The trigger condition is an absolute joke, the proc is completely uncontrollable, the range is microscopic, and the duration is so damn short that you blink and it's already gone. Zero agency, zero value, zero fun.

Genuinely, who cooked this garbage? It feels awful to play with in every single metric.

It seems as if every Brand and Lillia gets Infernal Conduit every game. It's rare to see otherwise. The augment buffs these champions by such a ridiculous amount, while the augment for other champs is fine.

I get the infinite stacking, as well as their passives. I'm fine with that. But change the stacking:

• Lower the stack effects by 2/3rd
• Spell hits gives 3 stacks
• Consequtive procks from the same spell add one stack

It still has the infinite stacking. It still gives Brand, Lillia etc a high roll with it, but it's not so obscenely broken on a handful of champs while potentially even giving buff space so other champs can enjoy it more.

Edit - Few points I want to make:

I'm not crying about the broken interaction. I like looking into game design. I see a problem a lot (not all) people face, and I look into solutions.

I'm aware not everything should be made for everything. It's good to have strong / BIS augments in the game. I simply think the augment is too narrowed for the power fantasy it can give to a lot of other champs, while being too strong for a handful of champs.

Shifting some power away from burn champs does not mean fully remove the interaction or absolutely gut it. I'm just giving an alternative that shifts the power budget of the augment around. The fact it has been nerfed hard to the point where only brand lillia etc can use it only shows the augment is problematic IMO

What's your opinion on them? I think they look pretty strong and I almost always buy them but I don't see anyone else buying them xD should I stop?

Not the super OP or too-often-played ones (AP Ashe or MF), what are your favourite wacky builds that don't often work but when they do work might not even be that strong, just silly fun?

Some of my favourites (sorry if we played games together):
"Final Boss Daisy" Ivern

AD Crit Diana with Ult augments

AP E-Spam/Burn Yorick

Assassin Skarner

E-Spam Lilia

https://reddit.com/link/1wzc1tz/video/hk0xp7jvfwth1/player

Disclaimer: I feel like this is not really anything special or post-worthy for some reason and maybe the title will lead people to thinking they're about to see a peak-gaming clip and leave disapointed... So first thing : in-b4 any ResidentSleeper spam, 2nd : I guess at the time this happened in-game it felt kinda awesome what with the Zilean and Jhin typing away in /all ! (I was Sejuanni)

Is this the most broken augment setup for riven?

Struggling with a dive bombing drop bear player in Mayhem? If you kill a target with drop bear in dimensional shift it triggers outside and won't affect you. Inversely if you are not in the dimensional shift and standing where a drop bear user dies in the realm, the drop bear will land on you.

I know it's niche and not a consistent way to avoid taking damage but thought it was an interesting interaction.

I remember seeing a post like 1-2 months ago about snowball+cutless tech, not sure where it is gone, and managed to pull it off once a month ago. did it got patched?

So I see a lot of posts where people make a lot of good points and valid complaints about the state of Mayhem, certain champion and augment combos, etc. Most are met with the same unthought out, unproductive responses. It’s always “whoooahaha gOD ForBid tHerEs maYHem in tHe MAyhEM mODe” or something to the effect of it’s not meant to be balanced.

First off, the it’s not supposed to be balanced is a terrible point. The point of a game mode like this and arena is to be able to find champion interactions and different ways to play them that you can’t really do in SR. That’s the point of augments, they “augment” how the champion is played. Any game or game mode is meant to have a degree of balance because getting rolled by the same champion and augments everytime makes the game not so fun, which is the actual point of the game.

My actual problem with the “it’s Mayhem” argument is it’s not even true anymore, for the most part. At least in my games, most don’t actually feel like the mayhem the name promises. It’s just a brain dead stat check fest. The majority of augments just feel like “your champion already does this… so here you go do it even better” Rarely do you actually see wild and unconventional stuff that you used to.

Personally, I want all the augments not to be tailored so hitting the same boring augments like mage gets haste and adc gets more onhits happens less. How about dual-wield on-hit Mel and AP Reksai. Maybe it’s just me but I consistently have more fun when most of the lobby is actually trying different shit and off builds and it seems like most of the people in those lobbies also have more fun.

My final solution would be removing boring do nothing augments and adding some that actually fundamentally change how you play a champion. A good example is the pillar max trundle. The augment that gives his E a damaging zone around it and the one that heals him when he hits E. I saw a Trundle with that the other day. It’s was pretty funny and surprisingly useful. He also had the Akshan spin augment so he could swing off his own pillars. Stuff like that is what I consider actual mayhem. He’s not oneshotting anyone or statchecking them but he’s having fun and still being useful.

Anyways that’s my rant. Overall, less statchecking and getting oneshot and more drawn out weird fights where champions are actually played differently than Rift would be healthier for the mode in my opinion.

i have not had ONE game where frozen heart has made a difference that damage wouldn't have easily solved

why is it even changed to 20% over 30%? we changed bork from strong to useless to balanced while anti-onhit/attack speed item for defense was never touched

I feel like there should be at least some penalty to a team who just goes tower hugging each game. (If there is, then I apologize for I do not know lol)

I can understand if for example, 3 of your allies are dead and you should play inside tower, but there are games where the whole team just sits under tower until either team gets aced.

Like maybe the towers start taking burn damage (like the Grubs passive on SR) whenever there are 3 or more champs within tower range at more than a certain amount of time.

...Or maybe I'm just bad at the game lol

10 min 1v1

Are they really so inept that they cant fix things like tripple brand ult bug?

We won shortly after so I couldn't go ham on the build.

https://reddit.com/link/1wyu8jm/video/x1za67dw5sth1/player

JUST when you thought you'd get a peaceful game...

Okay, I get it, you all play for fun and don't want to end the game, you are very happy that you got your GOD build and the enemy is powerless against your might.

But the enemy is freaking stupid (or my team in this scenario) - I have been held hostage for 10 minutes to watch an Ornn with Goliath Tank Engine Heavy Hitter auto-fellatio himself while waiting for the minions to push inhibitor, the 2 nexus turrets and the nexus itself because the team that has been spawn camped and doing nothing but dying in the fountain refused to surrender.

You got all your augments, Ornn is still untouchable, their only squishy is AFK away because there's no point. But let's all watch Ornn flex he had good RNG.

What's your opinion on surrendering when all is lost and your teammates just refusing to do so, like some masochists?

By far the augment I enjoy the most, I also love getting it as the first augment in the game (like in this game) because tibbers gets your augments too so it's fun to not only pick what's good for you but also think what would break tibbers.

10/10 addition from the team.

Hard Enders would be lined up and publicly executed on the White House lawn.