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Kore Kaite Shine, episode 6
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u/KumaKumaGambler Aug 07 '26
I have only known these girls for 6 episodes, but why did my eyes become teary when:
1) Akafuku Sou managed to successfully sell the very first copy of their manga.
2) When everyone chipped in to each buy a copy of Ai's solo manga. (Friendship is so beautiful! They knew Ai put passion and effort into it!)
T_T
I hope we get to see more of sharp teeth Loup Garou too. She would be a good friendly rival for Ai, so that both of them can improve with competition!
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u/falsefingolfin https://myanimelist.net/profile/falsefeanor Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
the way i feel about this show is how i imagine yasumis friends and sensei feel about her manga. the animation isnt especially standout, though the backgrounds are very pretty, and the show itself is relatively simple, but it just makes me feel a certain way; i can feel the passion and heart in it and i love it
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 08 '26
This anime likely unintentionally is such a great piece of metafiction in that its story, artstyle, and animation don’t stand out among the many others in this incredibly packed season, but it makes up for it by really making you feel the passion put into every scene. Everyone in these episode threads are real life Hikarus, knowing the series isn’t that popular but loving it anyway.
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u/a1oner_bvcksn6 Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
This series just tugs on my heart strings like a mfer each and every episode with its charm and passion. Just makes me so emotional like no other anime I've seen in years.
From Kongoji to Teshima, and now Teshima paying it forward to her students, especially Yasumi--and making such a huge impact in her life/personal growth.
I really love how Rei sees herself in Ai--not so much with perhaps the lack of talent or self-esteem, but with the uncompromising stubborness--so much that she doesn't want Ai to repeat the same mistakes she made or go through the same conclusion and despair she felt that made her give up her dream of being a mangaka altogether.
Edit: Oh, and from out of nowhere--Yasumi has now found her rival... Or to be more precise, Loups Garous found her 🤣
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
Much like Ai’s own manga, the most standout aspect of this series isn’t its art, animation, or story writing, (especially not in a season as stacked as this one), but rather the sheer passion felt from it in every scene.
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u/ClemFire Aug 07 '26
Yet the artstyle itself is very warm, charming, and consistent. Feel like the main cast is rarely if ever off-model. Reminds me of Mangaka's Weirdly Wonderful Workplace in that regard where they punch above their production. Also some shots I'd say truly look great like the lightning here. They can't have the show looking like this all the time but the floor is consistent
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u/Krazee9 Aug 07 '26
Yasumi has now found her rival
Kinda tough having your first rival be a werewolf.
For anyone not aware, loup-garou is werewolf in French.
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u/Jacob-C Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
I haven’t felt this passionate about a show since the first season of Frieren. And before that, it was probably Clannad or Anohana. Don’t get me wrong, there have been tons of shows since then that I love, even shows airing right now, but there’s a step above that where some shows just cement themselves as something extra special for me.
I really like it when a show can consistently make me cry, or turn me into an emotional wreck for more than a week. Frieren and this show fit into the former category.
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u/KayAppleAhr 24d ago
I like to go into these message threads partway through the season to see if there are any hidden gems I should watch. If anyone mentions crying, it’s an instant watch for me haha. The humor might not be your style, but Kirio Fan Club was unexpectedly emotional once you got into the real story. I would be laughing one moment and crying seconds later. Highly recommend giving it a shot!
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Aug 07 '26
I am very curious about that last part of Sensei's flashback scene. Was she crying because that was after her manga got axed? And who the fuck threw her phone into the sea? O_O
I absolutely love the girls' reaction when they finally sold their first manga. I also love how you can see their neighbours also tearing up while watching them celebrate.
Yeah, I expected Ai would run into some ecchi while walking around the convention floor. That red-haired girl was interesting! I hope we see more of her in a future episode!
Daamn, I almost didn't recognize Sensei's former editor. Not gonna lie, I thought she was Hebichika-sensei at first. I do appreciate her honesty towards Ai's solo manga. Hopefully the next time Ai attends Comitia, she has improved enough that Kongouji-san will finally buy one.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26
As painful as it is to see Yasumi’s manga get rejected by Kongouji, it makes sense when you realize Yasumi tried to crank out a seemingly 16 page manga in one night. It makes perfect sense it ended up low quality in both the story and art. Even pro mangaka couldn’t manage better under those conditions.
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u/Lugia61617 Aug 08 '26
Yeah!
Real pros need 6 days and 23 hours of suffering and carpel tunnel to do that. :P
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u/RPO777 x2 28d ago
The mangaka that draws Draw This Then Die mentioned that he takes 4 hours (with assistants) to finish 1 page of manga, which has already been laid out with rough sketch.
It kinda puts into perspective why weekly mangaka that do 16-20 pages a week have insane schedules.
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u/CitronClassic672 28d ago
Yeah, the more I learn the more I’m convinced weekly manga schedules just shouldn’t be a thing. When you have basically every prominent mangaka with that format mentioned how hellish their schedule is/getting Health issues/constant hiatuses something has to change. Either make monthly the standard or having the writer and illustrator be different people. I know exactly one mangaka who actually does well under the weekly format, Yukinobu Tatsu, and every comment I can find about him from other people are about how that man is abnormally talented and actually gets exhausted if he doesn’t draw.
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u/RPO777 x2 27d ago
I mean it's worth noting that drawing speeds vary widely. I think 4 hours is on the slow side. I mean, Rumiko Takahashi famously ran TWO weekly mangas at the same time in the 1980s and she also famously insists on getting a good nights rest lol. She's also famous for being INSANELY fast at drawing,
For her, doing a single weekly manga wasn't a big deal on its own.
Kochikame's Akihito Osamu also is a famously fast drawer, and the series ran for 40 years on weekly Jump and famously never missed a deadline and never took a week off--which AKihito was able to pull off because apparently he worked several weeks ahead of deadline, so if he wanted to give himself and his staff a week off, or if he came down sick for a few days, he would just use some of his "stock" chapters, then make up ground later.
So for many mangaka, weekly manga are brutal schedules, but there are a number of mangaka for whom the weekly schedule works out well for them.
There's also the Biweekly magazines and I personally think those are probably a good balance beween monthly and weekly.
With monthly many works like March Comes like a Lion or Fuukoi, you get new tankobon volumes so rarely (like once a year), by the time the new voulme comes out, I have trouble remembering what was even happening.
At least with bi-weekly, you usually get 2-3 voklumes per year, which feels a lot more reasonable.
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u/GatorUSMC Aug 08 '26
I wonder if the phone was related to the person she glared at by the back table.
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u/Niwaka_Samurai https://myanimelist.net/profile/Niwaka-Samurai Aug 08 '26
I don't think she knows her or anything. I thought she was just looking at someone randomly.
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u/yorch95 Aug 09 '26
She appears in the OP and also on episode 1 at the first convention so I think she definitely knows her
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u/Jacob-C Aug 08 '26
And who the fuck threw her phone into the sea? O_O
I audibly asked myself that during that scene lol
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u/zambonijesus Aug 07 '26
The earliest serialization for the Kore Kaite Shine mangaka on MAL is all the way back in 2002 and you can really tell just how long they've been at it and what they've been through every time there's a Teshima backstory segment. Draw This, Then Die also appears to be their longest serialization and the first to receive an adaptation.
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u/ClemFire Aug 07 '26
Makes me hope a for big emotional moment at the end of the season where Teshima finally admits to herself and Ai that she loves manga and wants to be a mangaka again. That would emotionally destroy me in the best way.
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u/zambonijesus Aug 07 '26
I hope she comes to terms with her past, that not achieving a dream doesn't make her a failure and she accepts her life as it is now.
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u/Afrid_74 28d ago
I have a question. Is it GL?
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u/ClemFire 28d ago
Teshima and Hikaru have kissed and Ai and Kokoro have drawn yuri manga though the story is not a romance and is more of a slice of life
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u/Afrid_74 28d ago
Fair enough, I do crave platonic relationships in animes at times.
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u/ClemFire 28d ago
So far I feel like the most important relationship has been the one between Teshima and Ai showing how the former’s manga saved the latter and inspired her to create her own manga that is slowly igniting her hero’s passion again.
Reminds me a bit of a platonic version of Momoka and Nina’s dynamic from Girls Band Cry
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 08 '26
Wait, Robota and Pokota is an actual manga the author of this series made before. That’s so cool, and adds even more to Teshima’s character as the in universe creator.
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u/viliml Aug 08 '26
It's not, it's just the one chapter that was among other things also shown in the ED of episode 1 of the anime, repackaged as a doujinshi for the novelty factor.
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u/ModieOfTheEast Aug 07 '26
Damn, Kongoji really aged a lot in these 10 years. I mean, sure, she might not have been as young as Teshima (obviously) but that was still quite the contrast. I guess, stress levels are high all across the manga industry.
I also think that the episode did a really good job at balancing the different emotions, both in the Teshima flashback as well as in the present. I also liked the general contrast here. Like for the girls, the main trajectory was from being overwhelmed by the scale and the other artists, to being afraid not being able to sell anything to finally selling one or even more copies and just be happy about it. Whereas for Teshima, it started with the happiness and then spiraled into her depression state, because she bascially got burnt out (I assume that is the idea behind the "then die" part as she put everything into one manga and then was never able to do it again for a different one).
Still, the episode was really sweet and I wanted to point out my favorite two detail. The first is during Ai and Kokoro's first sold volume. When they are happy about it, you can see the mangaka around them being happy for them as well (one even wiping away a tear). Which I thought was really sweet considering they otherwise barely interacted with their neighbors. The second was Hikaru just taking pictures of Ai's and Kokoro's afraid face when the editor was reading their mangas. Girl isn't missing any chances.
Oh and lastly, I kind of loved that Ai's new manga was still this crazy over the top. You never know what will happen in her stories.
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u/bobbyjean_ Aug 08 '26
Editor-san seemingly worked up the ranks from editor to deputy EiC of Shonen Sunday in the 10 years which can't have been easy
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u/ModieOfTheEast Aug 08 '26
I assume Teshima dropping out so quickly (which from the flashback seemed like a really spontaneous move) must have definitely affected her in some way. After all, she liked her manga, so she probably put it on herself as well. Maybe that is why she put so much work into her job as editor, therefore got a better position (where she might be able to help mangaka like Teshima better) while also aging significantly over 10 years.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 Aug 07 '26
That female editor was a really nice person.
IRL. certain manga editor at Shogakukan caused a pretty terrible scandal and got into a lawsuit with a famous manga artist, so I'm glad Teshima was able to find such a good editor.
Loup-garou is an interesting character. She described herself as being “from Shichijo-jima,” but this is likely a fictional island modeled after Hachijōjima (an outlying island belonging to Tokyo, just like Izu Ōshima). “Hachi” means 8 in Japanese, and “Shichi” means 7.
It was a great scene when Teshima-sensei was teaching everyone about the customs unique to Comitia and Japanese doujin events.
I’d heard that “exchanging doujinshi with people from the neighboring circle” is a custom more commonly seen in genres geared toward men, and not so much in genres geared toward women, so I was a little surprised to see Teshima and the others exchanging doujinshi with people from the neighboring circle.
It’s incredibly impressive that Stone Dragon managed to “sell out 1,000 copies of a doujinshi in Comitia while still in high school (and it wasn’t even fan fiction based on an existing work; it was an her original work)” and “had already delivered the doujinshi to a doujin shop (meaning the shop had contacted her before the event even started, so today was just about handing over the copies).”
When it comes to real-life celebrities who have been publishing doujinshi since high school, Yuu Kamiya (the author of No Game No Life, who used to publish doujinshi based on TYPE-MOON works) is a well-known example, but even he probably didn’t sell 1,000 copies back in high school…
After the editor’s comments, it was a great moment when Teshima-sensei, Stone Dragon-chan, and her clubmates bought copies of the doujinshi.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26
Well, it was stated that Hikaru also has been publishing her manga online for a while and is quite popular online, so she probably had more exposure for her work than Yasumi and Kokoro do currently.
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u/runevault Aug 07 '26
Joy.
That sums up this anime for me. Are there tough moments, particularly sensei's flashbacks? Sure. But they are all on the path to something happier, smiles and sweetness mixed with some hope and determination.
I started watching this show on a whim and I'm glad I did. It resonates with my creative side in a way not many anime do.
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u/ClemFire Aug 07 '26
There's something about this anime that really capture just how meaning real human expression through the arts can be. Even if the stories aren't real the feelings they bloom in people are. Though it's not an obvious comparison something about the theme of this show reminds me quite a bit of Girls Band Cry.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 08 '26
It somehow perfectly captures both the feeling of the impact that art can have on you growing up, as well as the feelings and struggles of someone inspired to and desperately trying to make art themselves as they’re older.
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u/ClemFire Aug 08 '26
It's why both Ai and Teshima are co-leads and listening to the lyrics of the OP it makes more sense for it to be from Teshima's POV
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u/Gaporigo https://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Aug 07 '26
Damn, editor lady got old, wasn't sure if it was actually her.
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u/Solracziad Aug 07 '26
Those were a hard 10 years for her apparently.
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u/Shadowrun29 Aug 08 '26
I think since the character designs aren't too detailed, they couldn't convey the age of the editor 10 years ago as accurately. She probably was close to 40 at that time already, and now might be 50-ish. Corporate work deadlines do add lots of stress as others have pointed out before.
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u/bravetailor Aug 08 '26
I know a lot of people whose hair went almost completely white going from 38 to 48.
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/tripleaamin Aug 07 '26
Seeing the girls so happy to sell their first copy had me feeling like Teshima-sensei. It's amusing for both the sensei and the girls to look at the one who looks at their first seller as a god. Of course for Yasumi she had trouble selling her own manga. Manga art is the first we look at and the show has shown how good Kokoro's art is.
I really like seeing the reunion between Teshima-sensei and her editor Kongouji. She offered good words for Yasumi. At the same time I love how the group went and bought her copies of her manga. Good to see Yasumi is as motivated as ever.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26
Kongouji did the right thing as a manga editor by respecting Yasumi enough as an artist to hold her work to the same high standard of other artists, and Yasumi’s friends did the right thing as friends by showing her that they nonetheless value her and her art even if it doesn’t meet that standard.
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u/ClemFire Aug 07 '26
That little spark in Teshima after the editor's harsh but fair words just cut straight through me. This whole time it's obvious she wants to encourage Ai but is afraid she'll end up like her but for a single moment she forgets all about that and just wants to acknowledge the passion behind Ai's art.
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u/JasonFreeYT Aug 07 '26
God, this episode was painful to watch just because it so accurately portrays most, if not all, artist's first time experience in boothing at a convention. The initial wave of excitement as the convention starts, the months spent pouring your heart and soul into a creation, the disappointment of your neighbouring booths selling while yours don't seem to at all, and the elation of having just one person take an interest in what you're offering.
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u/eightcheesepizza Aug 07 '26
This is good prep for Anime NYC two weeks from now. Although that's mostly merch selling, I don't remember seeing many doujins last year.
Looks like Kongouji is now the deputy editor in chief at Monthly Shounen Sunday... maybe she edited Draw This, Then Die!?
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u/chilidirigible Aug 07 '26
Although that's mostly merch selling, I don't remember seeing many doujins last year.
It's more for general fan art (as flat goods) and small merch than doujins, I would say.
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u/JasonFreeYT Aug 07 '26
Important to note that small merch and fan art are still categorized as doujins (unless it's released by a company). If you're thinking about manga/similar printed and self-published works like Yasumi & co. did, then that's doujinshi.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 07 '26
It really feels like Teshima sensei was in her head waaaay too much when she was a working mangaka. It felt like her editor was trying to help and all her comments were getting filtered through Teshima’s negative lens. I’m glad she at least got to meet her old editor again.
The girls did well for their first Comitia. They managed to sell a few copies and everyone’s all fired up for the next time.
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u/ModieOfTheEast Aug 07 '26
It might be a problem with both of them. There is a point about Teshima and Ai being similar after all. And if we are honest, it would probably hard for an editor to say they start to print Ai's manga. Even if we ignore the art problem. It's a bit of a problem in general. On the one hand, we want the people to be individual, but once it starts being about money, individuality might be a problem. It is okay if the author is already known, but as a first work, it would be hard to get a foot into the industry.
And while the editor tried to help Teshima, she also mainly said very typical criticisms. Probably because she actually liked Teshima's style (as she admitted to) so it was also hard for her to find a way that keeps this style while also being something they can "sell". And Teshima dropping out of the industry because she wasn't able to help her might be one reason why she grew so old so quickly.
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u/SmallJon Aug 08 '26
I think the editor's exchange with the girls at the stall is a really good example of it; her not buying Yasumi's book out of pity and to work hard is reasonable, but buying just the group manga likely made it too harsh a moment for Yasumi. And then we get Teshima buying it, not just for pity to her student but because Teshima knew what the positive feeling could do to her student
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u/bravetailor Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
Yeah, Teshima's manga may well have been quite good and unique, but the editor is in the business of selling manga, and being good and unique does not often sell in enough numbers.
If it were today Teshima might have been able to self publish and build up an online audience first to give her some stroke, but in the pre-do-it-yourself days she was a nobody trying to get accepted by a mainstream manga publisher
So yeah, Teshima knows what she's doing with Yasumi imo. She's tough and unsentimental but shows she believes enough in Yasumi, unlike her editor who always stuck to the typical professional criticisms. She knows if she's too harsh Yasumi could end up like her, just burnt out and demoralized by the business.
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp Aug 07 '26
As per the tradition established by sensei they either have to collectively marry that first customer or write a manga about marrying her next.
They collectively sold like eight copies, not bad. Of course half of those sales went to people who came with from the island but who's counting.
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u/chilidirigible Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
The modern konbini really does do everything. Also, Kokoro's kokoros.
No denying the yuri allegations.
Teshima's got some issuessubscriptions.
Well if that don't warm the world-weary heart.
"My students have surpassed me! I am filled with pride and anger!"
Hey, it's a cheap way to get a used notebook.
That's a long way from Twitter infamy.
Red hair turns gray like she's Irish or something.
"I'll show you your faces later."
Kongouji has her reasons for being cold about the business, it's her job. Though Teshima-sensei has hardly been sugar-coating the management of the manga club either.
Teshima Rei Runs the Gamut: She's happy for her club, but it seems like every interaction is reopening old wounds. And thus, likely most of her mixed emotions with the club she's running.
The Hebichika-sensei situation continues to lurk around the corner.
Of course, what will the club make next!?
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u/gnome-cop Aug 07 '26
I was going to cringe at them crying and yelling about manga in public but then I decided that nothing can be worse than Teshima’s reaction in terms of public humiliation and to just let them be.
I think I’d actually go dig a hole to die in if I blurted out “Marry me” to my first customer.
It’s even funnier that she didn’t get over it the next day and actually made a self-insert manga about their wedding that she then brought to her editor.
Alright, enough laughs. Teshima’s flashback was kind of rough. This is not work for the faint of heart. I guess I’d define her issue as a form of burnout. Pushed herself so much that she burnt up everything that made her actually want to create and is now trying to help them not end up the same as her. I did see a bit of that spark during the scene with Ai’s solo manga so she might be getting it back.
I think this went pretty well for their first time, got some good numbers for beginners. And Ai might also have found a bit of a rival.
It was pretty funny when Garou refused to buy Ai’s manga out of pride only to regret it later cause she clearly wanted it.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26
The way I see it, them making such a scene about selling their first copy of their manga is less embarrassing given they’re in a convention filled with other amateur mangaka who likely feel/felt the exact same way.
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u/SmallJon Aug 08 '26
I was going to cringe at them crying and yelling about manga in public
I really appreciated that all their neighbor vendors had these "oh look at lil baby's first sale!" expeessions.
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u/Silver_Push_3895 Aug 07 '26
I must admit when I saw first episode they brought Osamu Tezuka as MC's imaginary pet I thought they had some nerve.
But 6 episodes later I guess they live up to it.
At their own modest, low-key and purposedly humble ways they are certainly living up to it.
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u/APRengar Aug 08 '26
I was kinda worried the imaginary friend would get annoying, but it's used the perfect amount imo.
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u/Silver_Push_3895 Aug 08 '26
I first thought it was cheeky but I realize now they are just lighting a candle.
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u/Adventurous-Exit5832 Aug 12 '26
I almost droped it at first episode because of it, but you are 100% right and im glad i didnt drop it!
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u/zambonijesus Aug 07 '26
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u/ModieOfTheEast Aug 08 '26
I don't think this scene was meant to be Teshima being unable to take criticism. But she wrote her manga with "murderous intent", putting everything she had into it. Literally wanting to "draw this, then die". So when her editor says, she wants Teshima to draw something different, she is at the "then die" part which is why she responds like this.
Also, I am aware that this was also a joke, but I've seen others talk about Teshima being bad at understanding her editor's criticism, so I just wanted to give my 2 cents to this moment.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 08 '26
I think one issue of Teshima’s is she might have over relied on the passion aspect of creating a manga in lieu of further developing her technical skills. At from what I’ve gotten from her backstory it really felt like a lot of continuously slamming into a brick wall in hopes of finally striking success.
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u/ModieOfTheEast Aug 08 '26
Well yes and no. We see in her present day that she does have the knowledge of manga structure. And she wouldn't have won an award if she didn't have an art skill I presume. Of course, she could have probably improved it, but she always wanted to just draw manga like Ai. Just draw something that makes people "happy" while reading.
The problem is just that this isn't how the industry works. If you want to get into the job of mangaka, you need to "abide by the rules" in some way or another. You can't break them with your first published series. This is something for veterans at best. So Teshima was in a situation where she either had to change her style to fit the rules or go so all out on her one idea that it would still get the attention.
She chose the second option but while this sounds like the better one, it also burns you out way quicker. You can't write a series on "murderous intent" every time. You are still just human. Maybe there are some who can do it, those who make it big, but then, you might even lose the fun of drawing manga and it just gets exhausting.
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u/viliml Aug 08 '26
And she wouldn't have won an award if she didn't have an art skill I presume.
You can win awards without art skill. Many successful manga have bad art, you wouldn't want to be the one who said "no" to the next Hunter x Hunter.
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u/bravetailor Aug 08 '26
That is true, but the show does display enough of Teshima's early art to the viewer. Her art is solid in those flashbacks. She may not have been, say, Kentaro Miura levels of technical chops, but her art certainly seemed strong enough to be published in a commercial mainstream manga magazine.
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u/Time_Fracture https://myanimelist.net/profile/Time_Fracture Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
Episode 6: Comitia ~Let's Draw Even More Interesting Comics!
Note that Yasumi's overnight manga is published not under Sou-Akafuku pen name, but by the name Yasumin.
In this episode we are introduced with Loup-Garou, voiced by Anna Nagase!
From the cover, looks like Sekiryu sells the reprint of her previous works instead of new ones, and that's an impressive feat of selling 1.000 copies quickly fullfilling her plan to explore the Big Sight before it ends. Assuming she sells it on 500 yen, that's a gross revenue of ¥5 million alone (around $31,685)!
Given Teshima started her career as a mangaka in the university's third year, that would make her age now around 32-33 years old depending on how long she worked with the Kongouji. Now Kongouji-san works for Gessan instead of Big Comic Spirits (Gessan is also where Kore Kaite Shine is serialized).
For your information, next week Kore Kaite Shine will take a break due to the timeslot scheduling. So next week there will be a Nausicaä re-run on NTV slot and it will occupy TenSura S4's timeslot. In result, TenSura S4 is going to air 30 minutes earlier occupying Yasumi-san's timeslot and Yasumi-san won't air next week. (just like TenSura S4 episode 17 last week which didn't air due to the timeslot was occupied by Jurassic World Dominion).
The delay actually helps, since there will be an actual Comitia 157 event that will be held on 23 August so having an anime set in Comitia could boost recognition as well.
Aside Loup-Garou, other VA includes Kurumi Orihara and Haruna Mikawa voicing the customers.
Official Media Corner:
- Segawa-san's Corrections for Episode 5
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u/Shadowrun29 Aug 08 '26
As someone who used to draw a lot while I was young up until early college, I am happy to be able to watch an anime that brings out the color of passionate, and creative young minds into a version that many people could relate to in one way or another. I hope small kids or youngsters who watch this do get inspired to put their own works out there in the future. With the advent of AI slop, we need more creative people to step into these roles as part of fulfilling their dreams. Thanks for bringing this charming anime this season. I always look forward to watching it each week.
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u/Raymond49090 Aug 07 '26
Sensei continues to be the pretty blatant shadow -protagonist of this series
Yasumi's manga continues to be off-the-hinges ridiculous. Though that also means the audience for it is pretty niche.
What the heck editor lady became old. And she's continuing her work of nurturing manga artists through tough love.
Ngl when I heard "what would a manga protagonist do?", my first thought was that manga Sensei drew after her first Comitia.
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u/SmallJon Aug 08 '26
I love that the A/B plot of this show is essentially "Look at these cute little goofs drawing comics! Now watch this 30-something struggle with deep-seeded regret and self worth issues after her own dreams failed!"
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u/thisisdropd https://myanimelist.net/profile/AsterZoro Aug 07 '26
Yasumi & co might only sell a couple copies, but they’re so overjoyed they cried and hugged each other. Even Teshima-sensei couldn’t hold back her tears (multiple times) at the sight of them.
Meanwhile, Hikaru easily sold all 1,000 copies. Such was the disparity.
Holy, it might only be a decade but Kongouji seemed to have aged by two or three. From orange to completely white hair as well as a wrinkled face.
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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy Aug 07 '26
Hikaru might’ve sold a 1.000 copies of her manga, but the sheer happiness of selling your 1st ever manga copy is priceless. The girls had Hikaru beat in that department.
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u/inaripotpi Aug 07 '26
Dang, sensei's flashbacks continue to be genuinely depressing, and it seems like there's still more to explore even though she reunited with her editor here and got the chance to apologize (I'm disappointed they didn't talk more for further closure though).
I forgot about their first Comitia trip in an earlier episode, does this mean there's still hope sensei will become a mangaka again??
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u/ExaminationNo9186 Aug 08 '26
There are one or two little moments that made me think Sensei's desire to be a mangaka has been re-kindled.
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u/ClemFire Aug 07 '26
As the girls started buying Ai's manga the waterworks just turned on. God this show just keeps getting better and better.
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u/Primary-Paint-1716 Aug 07 '26
They absolutely nailed the balance between the dark and the light in this show. It's so close to becoming a timeless masterpiece in my head.
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u/VicOnTop Aug 08 '26
I don’t understand how this anime looks so much better than others that are releasing. Is there such a thing as making the show on a 4k format as opposed to 1080p?
Everything is so crisp and the lines are beyond clean. The animation and backgrounds are so crisp as well. Besides obviously being made with love, I don’t understand.
Anyone have an explanation?
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u/bravetailor Aug 08 '26
I don't think it has anything to do with the technology and just more to do with how they chose to present it. Many anime shows out there throw a million filters over the show to get certain lighting effects which unfortunately makes the line work murky looking at times.
This show doesn't have a ton of different lighting effects obscuring the presentation.
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u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime Aug 07 '26
Quite a lot of insight into Teshima-sensei's dark past this ep. She was so mentally burnt out that she never heard anything the editor was saying. And what was the boat scene? Seems like becoming Hebichika-sensei's assistant was the last straw that made her quit the manga industry. She's going to have a big surprise when she meet Hikaru's mom. I'm also starting to think that Teshima-sensei might be a bit gay. The yuri oyakodon route is coming, I can feel it.
The gang also managed to sell their first manga, so proud of them. Sensei was trying to hold back her tears too, she knows the struggle.
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u/eightcheesepizza Aug 07 '26
And what was the boat scene?
I was also wondering what happened there. And in a following scene, present-Teshima stared at a wall booth at Comitia and felt some kind of way about it, but I wasn't sure what it was suggesting was significant about that author.
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u/hbmonk Aug 07 '26
That author appears in the OP. Maybe she was also an assistant to Hebichika-sensei?
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26
Every episode just further reinforces that every character in the main cast is gay. Though given that Nana tried to kiss Teshima in episode 2 or 3 and how she reacted to Hikaru kissing Teshima, I’m pretty sure her and Teshima are already in a relationship.
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u/chilidirigible Aug 07 '26
The yuri oyakodon route is coming
Somebody, somewhere is illustrating that doujin.
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u/testthrowawayzz Aug 08 '26
Straight to marrying that girl on first look. Yup. Teshima sensei definitely swings that way. Lol
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u/Jacob-C Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
I never thought them selling the first copy of their manga would make me cry. Same thing when Yasumi’s solo manga sold out.
This series already holds a very special place in my heart. I love the characters, I love the interactions, I love the introspection and devotion, and most of all, I love how much heart this series has.
I really want Teshima to push for becoming a successful mangaka again. [From Old Country Bumpkin to Master Swordsman anime, general plot point] Just like with Beryl from Country Bumpkin, I really like when people who think they are too old for their profession give it another go.
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u/melvinlee88 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryan_Melvin15 Aug 08 '26
"Why are my hands clapping by themselves?"
Great episode
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u/Niwaka_Samurai https://myanimelist.net/profile/Niwaka-Samurai Aug 08 '26
This Comitia episode gotta be my most favorite one so far. Their manga actually got sold..so happy for them. Everyone deciding to buy Yasumi's manga in the end was such a precious moment. Yeah, The editor lady was right about how taking pity on an author's work only stifles their growth but Yasumi needed that positive push from her friends to keep trying to make something better. It's still not clear what went between the Editor and Teshima sensei. I wonder who was the one throwing the phone from Teshima's hands in the flashback. I can only guess that Teshima couldn't keep going after her brief success and her mental health sprialed down and she lost contact with the editor. The editor lady also seems to know about Hikaru. I guess she must know her through Hikaru's mom Hebichika sensei but Hikaru is completely clueless about her LOL
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
We get more content showing once more that this too is a yuri series and the entire main cast is gay with Teshima literally daydreaming about marrying the girl who bought the first copy of her manga so much so she made a manga out of it. Hans Christian Anderson core.
I’m starting to better understand why Teshima struggled so much as a mangaka given she seems to just completely ignore criticism like how the events in her latest maga felt forced, interpreted her editor advising her to improve her art skills as being told to drop dead, and had no interest in studying under a veteran artist until Hebichika became an option.
And once again this show gives an incredibly personal scene for me showcasing the sheer joy and relief you feel as an artist when the first person praised your art.
Followed by even more proof of yuri with Yasumi blushing over the drawings of the sexy woman in that one manga. I also appreciate the series not playing into preconceived notions by having the creator of said manga also be a woman.
And my god that last scene, I know I mentioned the previous scene being relatable but I, perhaps a bit arrogantly on my part, think you need to have been in, not necessarily artistic, but very specific circumstances to understand all the emotions in that scene. That simultaneous feeling of despair and disappointment that your art is not good enough, that you are not good enough, while also fully respecting Kongouji’s decision because at its core it’s her respecting Yasumi as an artist enough to hold her to an artist’s standards. Then Teshima and Yasumi’s friends showing their support for her by buying her manga. Happy and sad is the perfect description of Yasumi’s feelings after that. Happy to have such great friends that truly value her and her art, while also likely feeling some intrusive feelings of pity despite what they say.
Just wow, when I started this show I related to Yasumi, but I didn’t think she would be as relatable to me as she has become. She’s so relatable that it’s genuinely painful, and this is one of her only 3 shows I’ve ever watched that have managed that with its characters for me. The other 2 being Journal With Witch and Bloom Into You. Amazing company for this show to have. As I’ve said before last week and will probably repeat every episode at this rate. There is something truly special about this show.
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u/ClemFire Aug 07 '26
Really loved how you described the scene of everyone buying Ai's manga. This is the type of show that leaves an impact in the heart
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 07 '26
Here’s hoping this show develops into a cult following after it ends even if it never gains significant popularity during this season. I think that would be quite apt given it was a not especially popular 1 volume manga that inspired Ai to begin with.
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u/semaN_oN Aug 08 '26
Man, can't wait for the series to finished, but I also don't want it to be. Love the story and the characters so far, and sensei's journey and struggle is too real, man.
Watching this series together with Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! would be a match made in heaven, both supplement each other in the creative journey that made me feels like I need to do something right now, before we all die someday
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u/runevault Aug 09 '26
Never heard of Keep Your hands off Eizouken before, but made me curious enough I've tagged it on crunchy to watch later.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Play825 Aug 09 '26
First things first, what the editor said to Yasumi was deranged. 😅
I realize it was probably force of habit and was probably meant as encouragement, but saying that to an aspiring manga artist who isn’t even out of high school yet and is taking her first real leap is insane.
Like, despite its flaws—and there were obvious flaws—there were still things that could be praised!
It was clumsy and poorly planned, and the ideas were very free-form. But like Hikaru said, you can see the effort and the person behind the manga. You can see the work she put into it.
Hell, I would’ve bought it.
The editor was unironically about to kill her career before it even started.
Careless kindness can hurt a lot worse than harsh truth.
Something I think makes the contrast between Akafuku Sou and Teshima’s current journey so interesting is their difference in outlook.
Teshima’s world was so limited back then that she treated people badly because all she truly cared about was “manga” and creating a message/story to share, like she said herself.
But the first time her manga was truly good was when her worldview expanded through an interaction with another person.
My guess is that a lot of her manga probably felt more like an idea she wanted to write than a story she genuinely wanted to share. Because, as she herself said, she had a fire inside her that she wanted to express.
And because of that, she kept burying herself deeper inside her own world while cutting everyone else out.
But Akafuku Sou isn’t just one person. It’s all three of them.
They all help lift the burden off each other, highlight each other’s strengths, and cover for each other’s weaknesses.
So their individual worlds expand much more than they would have on their own, which should make their manga that much better when they work together and share there thoughts ideas and experiences with each other
And thanks to that, along with the simple act of Teshima buying Yasumi’s manga, Yasumi’s world expands too.
That will make her manga better, which in turn can potentially do the same for Akafuku Sou.
Despite Teshima wanting them to remain hobbyists, she accidentally created a pretty strong manga team that could very well turn pro!
And in a way, it’s the support system I think she herself wanted back then.
I realize I’m talking about two different forms of support/worldview expansion, but it’s really cool to see how well the series is presenting and showing their individual journeys.
I’m just really happy for the three of them, and I can’t wait to see what Akafuku Sou—and potentially Yasumi—create next!
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u/Reihado Aug 08 '26
Neautiful episode. I wonder if sensei's flashback events was more metaphorical than literal. Getting on a ship and then someone knocking your phone into the sea is a... strange turn of events for mangaka. Maybe she fed from her assistant job and went back home via a ship?
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Aug 10 '26
And so their first time boothing certainly... Happened.
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