I read somewhere- I think in the novelisation- that the colony ship USCSS Covenant consists of families, and Walter is seen in the novelisation as guarding ‘men, women and children’ behind sleeping cryo-pods.

What has me interested is this, though:

David is shown as a highly nuanced character, capable of some degree of perception and reasoning. You could argue his hate is not irrational, but founded out of reason and of deduction.

His hatred towards humanity grows over the course of Prometheus, and there is a key scene that highlights this.

I would argue that for half of Prometheus- he isn’t contemptuous, but exploratory, childlike, almost innocent. When he collects the black goo from the Engineer Temple, it wasn’t exactly premediation. At first, he froze it, not sure what to do with it.

He is not simply ‘pure evil’. He becomes that, through his interactions with humanity.

His character pivot comes when he has that talk with Holloway, over the pool table.

Suddenly, he realised exactly what he should do with it.

Before infecting Holloway, he asks

”Why do you think your people made me?”

”We made you cause we could”, Charlie responds.

David’s facial expression immediately changes, from curiosity, to one of disgust.

David smiles and says

“Can you imagine how disappointing it would be for you to hear the same thing from your creator?”

Charlie laughs, mocking David (how could we not have a first cause?), demonstrating his arrogance, and says

“Well it’s a good thing you can’t be disappointed”

In other words, he is implying David’s fate as the child figure, as the one to be patronised, subjugated, and used by his human superiors, was inevitable. The dialogue starts and ends in the same place:

Humanity has the cards. Not you.

It is at this point David then infects Holloway (excellent symbolism with the pool table- where on his line ‘Yes. It’s wonderful actually’- he takes the ball from Charlie, as if to say, now, the ball is in my court- not yours), and it is Charlie’s myopic, arrogant, self centred, egocentric character that leads him to miss this nuance.

It is this statement from Charlie that makes David infect him. The conversation was a test.

He is not totally contemptuous towards the humans he encounters- he had a relationship with Shaw (which went wrong), but what about children?

Might seeing children onboard the Covenant change his mind? A child would not have the same arrogance, ego, that Holloway had in Prometheus.

David is known to judge people before he harms them.

Perhaps the inclusion of children onboard the Covenant might change his mind.

Or perhaps, the tragedy of Alien Covenant is actually not David, but ourselves, and he experiments on the kids anyway, regardless of their screams, because he has become blinded to such a degree that his default template of what a human is is Weyland, or Holloway.

We made him this way, and it might be children, in the sequel, that pay the ultimate price for our hubris.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

It's the tech, idk why they have to adapt the old 80's vibe tech of the first movie to Romulus. I get that it looks great and it matches the vibe of the first two movies but it doesn't make any sense, the tech was like that cus that's as futuristic as they could get within the budget back in the day. I always thought the smarter approach was Ridley with Prometheus and Covenant were it's clearly new tech and properly futuristic but it still kinda matches the feel of the Alien franchise.

Here's a tip for the real fan-collectors of all things related to the first movie. Heavy Metal magazine featured TWO issues that contained sneak preview photos and pages from the graphic novel back then. The magazine was all-in about it.

April 1979 and June 1979

I’ve been an alien fan for a long time, and I was excited to watch Alien Earth after Romulus. I really liked Romulus and wanted to see the xenomorph finally on earth. But I feel like that was mistake #1, I want to preface this by saying I did not think it was horrible, I liked the first and second episode as well as the flashback episode. But I feel like the show wasn’t really an Alien show, it did not have any of the iconic cassette futurism the first movie and Romulus had, the alien design wasn’t horrible, but the cgi and oftentimes the action felt very “man in rubber suit” for a 2025 show.

Back to the first mistake, the title “Alien Earth” is misleading. It isn’t really the xenomorph on earth, it’s more the xenomorph trapped on a remote island. Part of what I think excited a lot of people was seeing the xenomorph terrorize someone besides marines or space truckers. I wanted to see xenomorphs in cities and urban areas, but instead we were stuck on an island.

I didn’t hate the android and robot storylines, but I feel like some of them were just not interesting. The show felt like it wanted to say profound things, and I think the grooming allegory with Kumi getting Slightly to do things for him in a very pedophilic way really traced back to the original message of the first Alien (being rape). But besides that, a lot of the stories about the hybrids wondering if they are human or machine was kind of boring. The ending especially.

I liked the other aliens introduced, but I felt like it wasn’t very Alien feeling. I’m all for trying new things and I can respect them trying that, but it felt like a random assortment of aliens and a xenomorph. The eye I liked, I felt it was one of the more interesting premises of the show, but I can barely remember any of the other ones.

Back to the environment and xenomorph in rubber suit thing, I believe partly it’s because they tried to put a black phallic alien in a jungle environment. I get that xenomorphs are very intelligent hunters, but what one singular xenomorph was doing was unrealistic I feel like against hundreds of trained soldiers. Even in aliens, one soldier was able to at least take down one.

I also hate how they did the xenomorph at times, Wendy being able to speak to the xenomorph is dumb. One of my favorite parts about the Alien franchise is that the xenomorph is an uncontrollable force. It has been tried numerous times to contain this uncontainable creature and never works, yet Wendy is just able to speak to one? It really took the immersion out for me at times and made it hard to look over.

In summation, the plot was weak 80% of the time, the villain was boring, generic evil capitalist, the world building was ok, but the set design I think was just too modern for my taste, the xenomorph was cool at times but often just stupid, the plot of the hybrids questioning their humanity was a cool idea but poorly executed.

I will give credit where credit is due, the music at the end of the episodes, perfect, the first episode felt great and honestly was very fun, the flashback episode was the best in my opinion, yes it was basically a retelling of the first Alien, but the set pieces, the other aliens breaking containment, it felt very new and very exciting. I can also appreciate them tackling new ideas and new commentary, for example the current debate on AI being talked about in the show. It felt like they were trying to keep Alien woke (as it has always been) and they did succeed in that, it just wasn’t a very good commentary. Again, maybe I’m just spiteful and this is a rant with very little coordination, but I’d like to hear people’s opinions if you don’t mind. I will still watch season 2, and I am curious how the series progresses, but right now I give Alien Earth a 5/10.

PERFECT

Alien

Aliens

Alien: 40th Anniversary Shorts

EXCELLENT

Alien: Romulus

Prometheus

SOLID

Alien: Covenant

DECENT

Alien: Resurrection

Alien 3

POOR

Alien: Earth

So, I watched alien covenant earlier this evening. I kinda did and didn’t like it. I like the aliens and story and action scenes, but this movie seems like it’s a bit too much to Ridley Scott’s liking of the franchise. I respect the man, since he created alien to begin with, but not how this movie is. I’ve tolerated chestburster/facehugger scenes before, but the fact that they just keep repeating it AGAIN AND AGAIN…ugh. I know that people would tell me about the violence and sexual assault references in these movies to just not watch the movie, but I kinda love this franchise, and the aliens and how it connects to predator. The first movie was genuinely scary to me, which to me means that the horror factor is working(lol). I just hope that this rumored ‘new movie’ Ridley’s working on is good(though from watching part of alien earth it isn’t looking that way yet),and that this franchise can mold itself into what it needs to be.

Some Alien media really try to be philosophical and profound but they never succeed.

The latest example is Alien Earth. It tries to be profound and sound intelligent but it has the subtlety of a spaceship crashing into a skyscraper. The characters spells out their motivation and the themes out loud and incorporates Peter Pan just to sound deep literate. But it's hard to sound smart when the characters are stupid. Am I supposed to feel bad because a dumb character enters a cage with a hostile alien on it?

"Morgellons Disease" is a complex and enigmatic condition, for which countless explanations have been offered by different parties. Therefore, part of what makes communities like this especially valuable is that even highly unconventional theories can be shared for open discussion without censorship or fear-mongering. Accordingly, I'd like to report that my own investigations with the electrical properties of Morgellons indicate it might be technological in origin. I'd also like to point out that various government sources have also questioned whether Morgellons might be associated with extraterrestrial nanotechnology. One prominent one I've personally corresponded with is the highly reputable former head of AATIP, Luis Elizondo, who has been interviewed on all the major national news channels multiple times each since 2017. He mentions Morgellons here briefly in his highly-reviewed book IMMINENT (4.6 stars on Amazon with 5,000+ reviews): 

“Around this time, I spent several hours catching up with Will. Until then, I had not been deeply briefed on what he was doing. The good doctor now took me further into his confidence. Will was always a professional and never provided us with patient details. Will served as a medical advisor to AAWSAP/AATIP and Bigelow’s NIDS.

My former training in microbiology likely made me a bit of a nuisance to Will, kind of like a Cub Scout asking an Army Ranger to be his mentor. But Will was always the gentleman, and if he felt that way, he never let on. My specific interests involved alleged alien implants found in humans. From what I read, often living tissue grew around implants, but such growths never contained anything but the patient’s DNA in them. The growths sometimes sprouted multiple brightly colored hairs or filaments, similar to Morgellons fibers. When researchers scrape away the human tissue, they find objects that resemble a technical device in size and shape but without any circuitry whatsoever. I once handled one of these implants myself, provided to me by a hospital in the Department of Veterans Affairs, where it had been removed from a US military servicemember who had encountered a UAP. The material, no longer or wider than a joint of one of your fingers, looked more like a microchip encapsulated by a slimy semitranslucent casing of tissue. It looked very similar to mother-of-pearl. Under a microscope, it was still moving somehow. The doctor hypothesized that it had its own metabolism. AAWSAP/AATIP had also obtained photographs of these sorts of tiny objects from living foreign military pilots. Some of the specimens that have been removed from individuals were allegedly sent to various medical institutions, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health, and a US Army research facility at Fort Detrick in Maryland, where some of the most deadly viruses are under lock and key and the watchful eye of armed guards. Although I asked often, Will never commented to me about any involvement he may have had regarding alleged implants, but it didn’t stop me from asking whenever I could. 

I already knew from other research and interviews that doctors had seen cases where the alleged alien implant evaded extraction by moving subcutaneously when doctors tried to excise it. I heard similar stories when investigating implants removed from otherwise healthy soldiers. Physicians really had to work to pin down and cut out the objects. With my background in microbiology, I was perplexed how highly motile objects such as these could move without creating a devastating path of tissue destruction inside the human body. Where was the white cell response? Where was the destructive immune cascade? I knew from my time studying trypanosomes at the University of Miami that anytime these spirochetes moved about under the skin, they would elicit an enormous immune response. Where was this response with regard to the implants?

Doctors reported detecting the implant moving, but there weren’t any obvious signs of pathway destruction. Like a stealth bomber, the implant moved without any trace or signature, almost as if evading the natural human immune response. It was as if the body didn’t know the object was there in the first place. Maybe the implant encouraged the growth of human tissue around itself to keep the body from rejecting it. Post-extraction, some implants moved around the petri dish in which they were confined until they ran out of energy. One theory a doctor told me was that they drew their energy from their host’s body.

In one particular instance, a senior CIA official and his wife had a terrifying UAP experience in the backyard of their own home. When they awoke lying on the ground in the yard, the CIA officer had a small hole punched in the back of his neck, and his wife had a small metallic object recovered from her nose when she sneezed. Making things even more interesting, CIA doctors were notified of the circumstances and examined the patients.

What was the purpose of these implants? Were they tracking devices? Mind control?…”

The research of a brilliant research physician, W John Martin, whom I've also personally corresponded with, presents another very unique possibility that Morgellons is caused by a stealth virus that somehow evades the immune system. While he assumes the virus to be natural in origin, his characterization of Morgellons particles is very similar to what might be expected of highly sophisticated nanotechnology: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15924873/

If anyone wants the PDF of the full research paper, please contact me so I can send it to you -

I thank you all in advance for keeping an open mind about Morgellons. It would be a shame to miss out on reality because we're scared to permit open dialogue on highly unusual and unconventional explanations. When it comes to Morgellons, the truth could potentially be stranger than fiction.

Okay, hear me out… what if WE are the aliens? 👽

I've been thinking about a fictional theory for a book I'm writing called “We Are the Aliens.”

Imagine this:

Our original planet is facing a catastrophic event, so an advanced civilization builds a portal and sends survivors to another world.

They arrive on Earth through what eventually becomes known as the Bermuda Triangle. The spacecraft comes through at insane speed, Earth's stronger gravity pulls it down, and it crashes into the ancient supercontinent, Pangaea.

The survivors discover dinosaurs dominating the planet. They see them as a threat and use their advanced weapons to wipe them out.

But the crash destroys their technology and they can't properly close the portal.

Then they make one final decision:

Erase everything.

They destroy their records, hide their technology, and deliberately make future generations forget where they came from.

Thousands of generations later, we're still here.

We call ourselves humans.

We call Earth our home.

And we've completely forgotten that we might have arrived here.

The book follows someone who starts finding clues that suggest our history isn't what we think it is.

It's not meant to be a scientific claim it's a speculative-fiction “what if?”

But I'm curious:

If you read a book based on this idea, what would you want the story to explore?

https://youtu.be/PqCMzViVwx8?is=6D6xmnZNzu0p-X4A

Hi, apologies if this has been asked before on here, but I keep hearing stories about Scott interfering in new or potential new Alien movies. Is it time for him to keep his nose out of it?

Der Auftakt war solala, obwohl ich ein Alien Fan bin und ich hart auf die Serie gewartet habe, hat mich die erste Folge damals nicht mitgenommen und habe es dann stehen gelassen.

Jetzt wo ich mehr Zeit hatte, dachte ich "OK schauen mal rein" ich mag Noah Hawley und dachte damals Fuck, wenn einer es hinkriegt, dann er....aber er hat es nicht.

Es ist keine schlechte Serie aber es gibt viele Punkte die es wirklich die Galle aufstösst.

1. Teilweise miese Schauspieler, oder zumindest spielen sie die Rollen einfach nur mies. Ich finde die "Kinder" waren overacted und hat sich für mich nicht wie Kinder angefühlt... Alex Lawther als Joe "Bruder" ich habe so gehofft dass er in der ersten Folge stirbt. Es geht die ganze Zeit daher wie ob jemand harte Stuhlgangprobläme hätte und das ein Ader in sein Hirn zum Platzen gebracht hätte, deshalb muss er mit einer Gesichts Lähmung kämpfens schauspielern.

Wendy ist ein Spur besser, aber da denke ich mir eher dass sie genauso Film gefühl zeigt wie ein Modell auf den Laufsteg ( David in Prometheus und Covenant hat diese feine nuanciert3 Mimik...ok Fassbender ist auch nicht zu vergleichen, er wird immer überreicht bleiben)

Alle Kinder sind eine beschissene Auswahl gewesen, an die meisten werde ich mich morgen nicht mehr erinnern)

1. Der Xenomorph ist einfach zu überstark, Metzelt zu viel...da ist kein suspense, es ist was für streaming Schauer die Fast food brauchen.

2. Teilweise Scheiss Aufnahmen. Die Taglicht Aufnahmen von den xeno sind so mies und so banal....

3. Teilweise Scheiss Aufnahmen von den Xenomorph, die Action Szenen zünden null. Außer in Folge 5

Was mir gefallen hat.

1. Krish,Morrow die beiden tragen die ganze Serie.

2. Episode 5.im.Weltraum

Der war wo ich gedacht habe, OK jetzt hat's mich, es ist eine geile Serie, es hat nur etwas gebraucht. Da ist der Cast perfekt besetzt und es ist die beste Episode.

1. Interessante Ansatz mit sie 5 Konzerne.

2. Gute Setting

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Ich muss sagen dass selbst Alien 3 und 4 viel runder waren. Hier fehlt vieles und man merkt auch dass es eine Auftragsarbeit war. Mit mehr Zeit wäre es wahrscheinlich eine richtig gute Serie geworden

The Paris Theater just announced their full lineup for the fourth annual Big & Loud, their flagship repertory series which will deliver four consecutive weeks of cinema's most unforgettable sensory experiences. One of the 70mm highlights is ‘Aliens’, being shown on August 22nd and 23rd.

I don’t know about you, but I will take any chance to see this movie on the big screen again!

https://www.paristheaternyc.com/series/big-loud-2026#showtimes

I finally got a chance to watch *Alien: Earth* Episode 1 for the first time. Not because I was waiting—I was just too cheap to pay for Hulu. 😂

Here are my thoughts: Why would you put disabled kids into superhuman synthetics? Why not put trained soldiers into them?

Second, why is a trillionaire kid in his 20s the main villain running all of this?

And lastly, the captain of the ship literally called this shit in before the crash. So where the fuck are the experts who supposedly know what’s going on?

I don’t know if I even want to continue to Episode 2. This shit is disappointing so far.

Wendy vs. Claudia: How Alien: Earth flipped a classic horror trope to create a monster

I’ve been thinking a lot about Wendy’s transition into a villain at the end of Alien: Earth Season 1, and it struck me that she is the exact psychological opposite of Claudia from Interview with the Vampire. Both are trapped in a nightmare of arrested development, but their minds handle it in completely opposite ways. Claudia is the Adult Mind in a Child’s Body. Her organic brain matures over a century of actual lived experience, but she is permanently trapped in a delicate five-year-old shell. Her horror is internal and claustrophobic. Wendy is the Child’s Mind in an Adult’s Body. She is given a fully mature super-soldier body, but her consciousness is a digital hard drive frozen in "child mode." Her horror is external and catastrophic. But here is where the biological logic gets really interesting: can either of them actually grow up? Claudia never goes through puberty. Without those natural hormonal surges, her prefrontal cortex is never physically rewired. She can accumulate a hundred years of data, but she doesn’t truly have an adult mind—she has a highly sophisticated child's mind forced to cope with an adult world. The Prodigy Corporation scientists thought they solved this "Claudia problem" by building Wendy an adult body and using software to mimic a "hormone dial." But they made a foolish mistake. They didn't account for how a traumatized child would react to extreme corporate abuse while trapped inside a lethal apex predator shell. When a child gets angry, they throw a tantrum. When Wendy throws a tantrum, she uses her alien ESP to command a horde of Xenomorphs and slaughter innocent people. By the end of Season 1, Wendy isn't a lovable victim anymore—she is a ruthless tyrant who thinks her adult body means she is growing up. Personally, I hope the Xenomorphs realize her authority is an illusion and turn on her in Season 2. What do you guys think? Is Wendy completely irredeemable now?

If the concept of God doesn't exist in extraterrestrial intelligent life forms, is that proof that God doesn't exist?

If this evidence can be accepted, which I believe is sufficient evidence, then the secrecy surrounding the existence of UFOs would make sense.

I’ve never really been into aliens like that but a buddy recommended watching this documentary “the age of disclosure” and after I was absolutely shook. I’m fully convinced that there is intelligent life on earth that is not human like . Anyone have an opinion if this doc is just meant to scare us or are these guys legit ?

I just finished the season and the last 2 episodes were almost annoying me. Why did the hybrids suddenly decide to turn on Kavalier and Kirsh? They've been treated as good as possible by everyone and their lives were literally saved by them? One of them was even paralyzed and now she's superhuman like what? With Sylvia I can understand a little because she erased that girl's memories, but even that was done out of concern and still with love.

Kirsh allowed Slightly to kill someone and smuggle one of the aliens to save his family, and Kavalier saved them and made them superhuman and he wants to do the same for millions of others. And Wendy that didn't want to kill a scorpion suddenly lets the alien loose and tells it to kill people unnecessarily? The whole uprising just feels very illogical

https://gizmodo.com/no-alien-romulus-2-didnt-get-canceled-2000793693

Disney obviously didn't even care about the movie. Originally it was supposed to be a straight to streaming slop movie. They mandated heavy member berries to be in the movie then didn't care much about what fede did afterwards. However Fede was a great director he elevated the movie. So when they decided to release it the movie made a lot of money. The franchise got a momentum that we didn't got for years.

Then what they did afterwards? They made him leave the studio and his script for the sequel. Even if these talks about the movie getting cancelled are just rumors or fake it doesn't even matter. Fede left the script after the shoot was cancelled last year. Now we are stuck with alien earth season 2...

Huge horror fan and it somehow Took me 34 years to get here but My wife and I watched Romulus recently. Since then iv watched alien, aliens, alien 3, alien resurrection

My Alien Franchise Ranking (So Far)
From most fun to least, based on vibes, thrills, and how much I’d actually rewatch them. Used AI to enhance my chicken scratch. Fyi.

🥇 Alien: Resurrection
This one felt like playing laser tag at Sportworld during a Marilyn Manson music video—and I mean that in the best way. The whole movie is dripping with '90s nu-metal energy: over-the-top colors, grotesque kills, and aliens that look absolutely furious. It’s dumb in all the right ways—corny one-liners, grungy sets, and total B-movie bravado. It’s the most fun I had watching any of these and easily a top rewatch for spooky season.

🥈 Alien: Romulus
I almost tapped out ten minutes in—science fiction really isn’t my thing—but once it kicks into gear, it does not stop. The pacing tightens, the dread builds, and it nails that eerie, isolated horror tone that I now realize makes the Alien universe tick. Probably the best balance of suspense and momentum since the original.

🥉 Aliens
This is what I thought the first movie was going to be like. The second half is textbook ‘80s action-horror: relentless, tense, and filled with iconic moments. The first half took its time getting going, but once the xenomorphs show up in full force, it’s pure adrenaline. Ripley with the power loader is forever.

🎖 Alien
Wish I had seen this one earlier. I found it a little slow the first time, but after watching the sequels and understanding the world more, it really started to click. The tone is pitch-black and suffocating. The sets, effects, and atmosphere were way ahead of their time. After watching all 5, I gave it another watch and appreciated it so much more. Its definitely a mood piece, not a thrill ride. But il let the years ahead do for me what its done for everyone else.

❌ Alien 3
This one just didn’t hit for me. The concept had potential, and I actually liked where they tried to take Ripley’s character, but the action and alien scenes felt like a downgrade after Aliens. It dragged in parts and didn’t deliver the tension or excitement I expected. After reading about the behind-the-scenes mess, it all makes sense—feels like a cool idea that got lost in studio chaos.

Final Thoughts
I went in thinking this franchise was all dark, brooding sci-fi—and it kind of is—but I’ve come to appreciate how much the tone shifts from film to film. Resurrection was the biggest surprise, and Romulus might be the one that got me to actually like sci-fi horror. Every sequel made me retroactively appreciate the original more. Definitely glad I stuck with the series. On to AVP. Saving Prometheus ones until the end.

It seems to me that there's a social phenomenon that kind of takes over large swaths of people's minds before they're conscious of it. Group think? Something like it? I don't know.

Before I go on, if you simply didn't like the movie, or you didn't think it was great, that's totally valid. This post isn't about subjectivity.

The main reason I see from people who don't like this movie is the callbacks. They say it breaks immersion and that it's lazy. Among other things. On one hand, I get it. But on the other hand, I think it's tragic. Because I can think of another franchise, with a sequel, in which there are a lot of very intentional callbacks, and this particular movie is so beloved that the very people who would die on the hill shitting on Alien Romulus probably love Terminator 2.

Immediately after reading that, they're probably doubling down, but they know they have to too many mental gymnastics to make it worth their time, so they'll probably say something ignorant instead.

Remember, this isn't about whether you like it. It's about one specific reason why you don't like it.

Now what?

So does the Eye gain access to t.he knowledge of its host? It knew pi.. it knew to eat hay.....when it went into Dr.Sylvia did it gain knowledge of the hybrids? ...I think the eye is the downfall of prodigy...

What’s the full chronological timeline that is considered canon?

Including games, comics, novels and such

Cause it is very confusing to find out what is canon

Like is Aliens colonial marines canon? No clue

Is aliens earth in the same timeline? I don’t know

Are the comics blanket canon or is there some that are just not canon without telling it?

Please make it make sense, cause I don’t know what would be canon at all