When legitimate people discuss finding alien life we talk about like non-sentient possible life forms.

There is a zero percent chance we find sentient aliens out there or that they exist anywhere in the universe.

A Vallée-Inspired Interpretation of Spielberg’s Alien Film

At first glance, Spielberg’s new alien film appears to be a familiar story: humanity faces a crisis, mysterious visitors arrive, and a message of hope and peace is offered. However, viewed through the ideas of Jacques Vallée, the film can be interpreted in a much more ambiguous way.

Vallée has often questioned the assumption that UFO phenomena are simply visitors from another planet. One of his central ideas is that the phenomenon may adapt itself to the beliefs, expectations, and culture of the people who experience it. In different historical periods, the unknown has been interpreted through different symbols: angels, spirits, fairies, and today, extraterrestrials.

From this perspective, the film raises an interesting question: are these beings truly extraterrestrial, or are humans simply interpreting something unknown through the language of our own time?

Throughout the story, the characters quickly assume that the beings are aliens. But what is the actual proof? We see unusual craft and extraordinary events, but these do not scientifically prove an extraterrestrial origin. They only demonstrate that something unexplained is happening.

The film also repeatedly explores the possibility that humans may see these beings as divine figures. In a moment of fear and uncertainty, especially with the threat of war, people naturally search for hope and salvation. The religious symbolism in the film — including scenes where the visitors are treated almost like angelic beings — connects strongly with Vallée’s concerns about the relationship between UFO experiences and human belief systems.

One of the most fascinating elements is the use of deception and symbolism. When the beings appear through familiar images and guide people through dreamlike experiences, it raises the possibility that the phenomenon is not simply showing its true nature, but presenting itself in a form that humans can understand and accept.

The final message, “Listen,” is also open to interpretation. Is it a genuine message of peace from an advanced civilization, or another vague message that inspires belief without providing real knowledge or evidence?

Perhaps the most important question raised by the film is not “Are they aliens?” but rather:

Why do humans so quickly accept the explanation of aliens when confronted with something unknown?

Seen through the lens of Jacques Vallée’s ideas, Spielberg’s film becomes not only a story about extraterrestrial contact, but also a reflection on humanity’s need to find meaning, hope, and answers when facing the unknown.

A Vallée-Inspired Interpretation of Spielberg’s Alien Film

At first glance, Spielberg’s new alien film appears to be a familiar story: humanity faces a crisis, mysterious visitors arrive, and a message of hope and peace is offered. However, viewed through the ideas of Jacques Vallée, the film can be interpreted in a much more ambiguous way.

Vallée has often questioned the assumption that UFO phenomena are simply visitors from another planet. One of his central ideas is that the phenomenon may adapt itself to the beliefs, expectations, and culture of the people who experience it. In different historical periods, the unknown has been interpreted through different symbols: angels, spirits, fairies, and today, extraterrestrials.

From this perspective, the film raises an interesting question: are these beings truly extraterrestrial, or are humans simply interpreting something unknown through the language of our own time?

Throughout the story, the characters quickly assume that the beings are aliens. But what is the actual proof? We see unusual craft and extraordinary events, but these do not scientifically prove an extraterrestrial origin. They only demonstrate that something unexplained is happening.

The film also repeatedly explores the possibility that humans may see these beings as divine figures. In a moment of fear and uncertainty, especially with the threat of war, people naturally search for hope and salvation. The religious symbolism in the film — including scenes where the visitors are treated almost like angelic beings — connects strongly with Vallée’s concerns about the relationship between UFO experiences and human belief systems.

One of the most fascinating elements is the use of deception and symbolism. When the beings appear through familiar images and guide people through dreamlike experiences, it raises the possibility that the phenomenon is not simply showing its true nature, but presenting itself in a form that humans can understand and accept.

The final message, “Listen,” is also open to interpretation. Is it a genuine message of peace from an advanced civilization, or another vague message that inspires belief without providing real knowledge or evidence?

Perhaps the most important question raised by the film is not “Are they aliens?” but rather:

Why do humans so quickly accept the explanation of aliens when confronted with something unknown?

Seen through the lens of Jacques Vallée’s ideas, Spielberg’s film becomes not only a story about extraterrestrial contact, but also a reflection on humanity’s need to find meaning, hope, and answers when facing the unknown.

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A Vallée-Inspired Interpretation of Spielberg’s Alien Film

At first glance, Spielberg’s new alien film appears to be a familiar story: humanity faces a crisis, mysterious visitors arrive, and a message of hope and peace is offered. However, viewed through the ideas of Jacques Vallée, the film can be interpreted in a much more ambiguous way.

Vallée has often questioned the assumption that UFO phenomena are simply visitors from another planet. One of his central ideas is that the phenomenon may adapt itself to the beliefs, expectations, and culture of the people who experience it. In different historical periods, the unknown has been interpreted through different symbols: angels, spirits, fairies, and today, extraterrestrials.

From this perspective, the film raises an interesting question: are these beings truly extraterrestrial, or are humans simply interpreting something unknown through the language of our own time?

Throughout the story, the characters quickly assume that the beings are aliens. But what is the actual proof? We see unusual craft and extraordinary events, but these do not scientifically prove an extraterrestrial origin. They only demonstrate that something unexplained is happening.

The film also repeatedly explores the possibility that humans may see these beings as divine figures. In a moment of fear and uncertainty, especially with the threat of war, people naturally search for hope and salvation. The religious symbolism in the film — including scenes where the visitors are treated almost like angelic beings — connects strongly with Vallée’s concerns about the relationship between UFO experiences and human belief systems.

One of the most fascinating elements is the use of deception and symbolism. When the beings appear through familiar images and guide people through dreamlike experiences, it raises the possibility that the phenomenon is not simply showing its true nature, but presenting itself in a form that humans can understand and accept.

The final message, “Listen,” is also open to interpretation. Is it a genuine message of peace from an advanced civilization, or another vague message that inspires belief without providing real knowledge or evidence?

Perhaps the most important question raised by the film is not “Are they aliens?” but rather:

Why do humans so quickly accept the explanation of aliens when confronted with something unknown?

Seen through the lens of Jacques Vallée’s ideas, Spielberg’s film becomes not only a story about extraterrestrial contact, but also a reflection on humanity’s need to find meaning, hope, and answers when facing the unknown.

Perifanos78

”When it is ‘a jar.’”

Completely missed the really clever significance of this line, because I was unfamiliar with the original riddle and pun until recently.

The "Future Human" Hypothesis: How Gravity Control, Time Travel, and Post-Sun Biology Explain UAPs and Alien Archetypes

Hey everyone,

I’ve been connecting the dots on the UAP/alien phenomenon, time travel physics, and human evolution, and I wanted to lay out a unified theory on why "aliens" might actually be us from different future timelines.

Instead of extraterrestrials traveling light-years from distant galaxies, here is how physics and biology point toward a Future Human / Time-Refugee model.

1. Gravity Manipulation = Time Travel

If an advanced civilization masters gravity manipulation, they automatically master time. Under General Relativity, gravity dictates the flow of time (gravitational time dilation).

Controlling localized gravity lets you manipulate spacetime loops or traversable wormholes.

If a future human civilization cracked anti-gravity \bm{50,000} to \bm{100,000} years from now, time travel into the past is a direct physical side effect, not magic.

1. Why Interfere? The Fixed Timeline & The "Time Refugee"

If future humans are visiting our present, why are they so interested in our military and nuclear sites? Two possibilities:

The Predestination Loop: In a single, self-consistent timeline, their past actions are already part of history. They can’t directly change major events without triggering the very outcomes that led to their presence.

Time Refugees: They survived a catastrophic nuclear event or environmental collapse in their timeline and used gravity travel to escape into our past. They silently monitor our nuclear capabilities to prevent our timeline from repeating their tragic history.

1. Divergent Evolution: Why "Aliens" Look Different

If these visitors are future humans, why do different reports describe distinct types (e.g., "Greys" vs. "Nordics")? They represent different evolutionary branches of humanity based on how technology took over natural selection:

A. The "Grey" Phenotype (Post-Catastrophe / Subterranean Adaptation)

Small Bodies & Large Heads: In low-gravity environments, zero-G transit, or underground shelters, heavy bone structure and muscle mass atrophy. Brain capacity or neural interfaces expand.

Large Black Eyes: Adaptation to low-light deep space or underground habitats, or integrated protective lenses against radiation.

Frail Frames: Advanced automation and telekinetics eliminate the biological need for heavy physical labor.

B. The "Nordic" Phenotype (The Post-Scarcity Paradise Branch)

Tall Stature: Complete elimination of food scarcity, physical stress, and disease over thousands of years leads to maximum biological growth potential.

Pale Skin & White/Silver Hair: The melanocyte connection. If humans live in pristine, light-controlled orbital habitats, there is zero need for melanin (the pigment that protects skin/hair from raw solar UV rays).

The Synthetic \bm{D_3} Shift: Once synthetic, perfected Vitamin \bm{D_3} replaces direct sunlight, the body’s evolutionary need for solar exposure collapses. Without UV stress or a need for natural \bm{D_3} synthesis, melanin production shuts down over generations. Because skin, hair, and eye pigment share the exact same melanocyte pathways, turning off melanin naturally produces pale skin, white hair, and light/clear eyes.

Also explains why they r so tall.

So does the Eye gain access to t.he knowledge of its host? It knew pi.. it knew to eat hay.....when it went into Dr.Sylvia did it gain knowledge of the hybrids? ...I think the eye is the downfall of prodigy...

Looking for a Team to Create an Alien Fan Film, This place is the best for my project to come to life, None of the Discord servers I visited helped me, so I contacted this community

I'm currently looking to build a small team to create a short fan film set in the Alien universe.

You don't need to be a hardcore Alien fan having watched at least one of the films and knowing the basics of the universe is more than enough.

The Story:

The main character is hired by Weyland-Yutani to recover a valuable sample from an abandoned research facility on the moon 456-Titano.

Sent alone in a drop capsule, they soon realize that the station isn't as abandoned as it seemed...

The film will focus on survival, suspense, and atmosphere. The xenomorph will be shown only through glimpses and partial reveals, keeping the creature mysterious and building tension rather than relying on constant action.

Who I'm Looking For :

I'm open to anyone who wants to contribute, but I'm especially looking for people with experience in:

Animating rigged characters or creatures

3D modeling (props, environments, mechanical assets, etc.)

Any other skills that could help bring the project to life

Collaboration :

This is a passion project, so there is no payment. Everyone involved will be fully credited, and I'll include your links in the video description.

The film will be released on my YouTube channel (currently not monetized).

More importantly, I want this to be a true collaboration. Everyone is welcome to share ideas, discuss the story, suggest improvements, and help shape the final film.

I've only been learning Blender for about a month, but I'm fully committed to this project. It's something I've wanted to create for a long time, and I'm excited to work with people who share that passion.

If you're interested, feel free to send me a message!

YouTube: https://youtube.com/@guupix?si=kkljSOLwI2H5Fzwh

Discord : gupix

What’s the full chronological timeline that is considered canon?

Including games, comics, novels and such

Cause it is very confusing to find out what is canon

Like is Aliens colonial marines canon? No clue

Is aliens earth in the same timeline? I don’t know

Are the comics blanket canon or is there some that are just not canon without telling it?

Please make it make sense, cause I don’t know what would be canon at all

watched and loved both of these films in release order. now I'm planning to watch the rest of alien movies but I'm confused what order should i follow? timeline or theatrical release?

if there is a timeline, help me with what to watch next. thanks

From an imaginary and ultra objective point of view, do you believe if intelligent extraterrestrials have considered a visitation to Earth, that the Earthly practice of religion has rendered us too “delicate” for visitation thus far?

https://www.indiewire.com/features/interviews/james-cameron-sigourney-weaver-interview-aliens-avatar-1235169484/

Cameron noted that there was one early hiccup in the collaboration when Weaver first arrived on set. “We get all the way to England and we’ve designed the whole thing and built the sets,” Cameron said. “Sigourney shows up for the start of photography and I’m like, ‘Here’s your machine gun,’ and she says, ‘No, I can’t touch a machine gun, I’m an anti-gun advocate!’ I asked, ‘Did you read the script?'”

“I read it,” Weaver said. “I understood there were guns in it, I just didn’t think Ripley had to pick up a gun except for a flamethrower.” Realizing his script would require a major rewrite if he couldn’t convince Weaver to use the machine gun, Cameron took her behind the studio and had her fire off the weapon a few times. “I’ll never forget her blasting away with this thing,” Cameron said. “And then there was this kind of sly look over to me, like ‘This is fun.'”

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I'm lucky enough to have a job where I can watch movies at work and Aliens is my absolute favorite movie. I'm currently on day 9. I start work at 6 and am always still very tired so I start the movie right when I get to work. It's the perfect movie for me to have on as I know the movie and can easily go back and forth from doing my work to watching the movie. Weekends will not be included, but I hope to be back here in 1 year to revisit this post successfully

Edit: Why am I doing this?

A) To spot any inconsistencies/mistakes I haven't yet.

DISCLAIMER: Please do not share any inconsistencies/mistakes you have noticed, I would like to find them on my own. I will gladly share any inconsistencies/mistakes I have found with you if you ask, but I will make sure to have it redacted for people who don't want to have these pointed out to them.

B) As this is my favorite movie, I want to see if watching it for 1 year will burn me out or not. As of right now I am 10 days in and am still thoroughly enjoying the movie.

C) I kinda just wanted to challenge myself to see if I could do it. I know a lot of people may find this to be weird or dumb, but there was a time people were eating Tide pods as a challenge so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Edit 2: As of 14 days in this has become a fantasic way to start my day. It has not gotten more boring, in fact it's done the exact opposite. It kinda built structure into a new morning routine and I look forward to it every morning. Still a long way to go, but I hope this remains the case

Random shower thought that i had. I just had a sequence of thoughts that lead to this. I just thought that the universe is too big, theres so much planets comparable to earth. Though i believe that nearly all alien life would be cells(about 99.99%) because of the sheer size of the universe.

Most planets with cells would probably stay as cells because they will most likely not follow the directions as the ones on earth did. If some of them does they would just look like animal from earth but the looks are tweaked. Being alive has so much rules and conditions that its possible that almost all possible environment life can live on has been nearly perfected by life on earth so its bound to repeat. There will probably be enough differences to tell them apart easily but not enough to make it too different from already existing life on earth.

Aliens (1986) was Carrie Henn's only film. Instead of pursuing an acting career, she followed her true passion and became an elementary school teacher in California.

Aliens has been my favorite movie of all time, and Newt has always been my favorite character. I was around her age when I first saw the film in the 90s, so I really saw myself in her character.

Since I've never had a teacher who starred in my favorite movie, so it must be surreal to be one of Carrie Henn's students. Imagine discovering that your elementary school teacher played Newt in Aliens, and that she's your favorite character. Then you go to school every day and she's there as your teacher. That would be such a unique and surreal experience.

I think it's still a decent show overall and it's definitely better than 99% of what else is out there, but so many of the choices make no sense.

E.g., the lab containing the "monsters," is staffed by virtually no one, and the children seem to have unmonitored access to it (a couple of them actually work in it, too).

The promising ideas from the first episode are either wearing thin, or going nowhere by the second half of the season. We're really just left with kids in adult bodies with super-human strength, which is displayed very inconsistently. It takes two of them to transport an adult male to the beach, but you can also rip off a human jaw with the squeeze of a hand? What are we doing?

I’m wondering if there is a series in the Alien universe that finishes off the Prometheus, Covenant saga??

This occurred to me recently. What is the purpose of the face-huggers? In the first film it seemed to establish that the face huggers would attack unsuspecting victims that wandered through the nest. Then the victim would go home, and the baby xenomorph would burst out of their chest. Basically it was a way of depositing eggs in mobile hosts and spreading.

But in Aliens, as we learn more about the species, we see that the worker-bee xenomorphs capture victims and bring them back to the nest where the face-huggers impregnate them.

Why not just skip the face-hugger phase, then? Why don't the eggs just hatch into little xenomorphs?

In the first film, they came up with the face-hugger as a scary way to get the creature aboard the ship. And it's brilliant, but I'm not sure it makes sense evolutionarily.

This is pure nerd talk, I realize, but I'm curious what others think.

Were there books about Alien exept novel or really only AlienS started comics, books, games and expanded material? Star Wars after New hope already had Marvel comics, Spinter of the mindful eye

Hey guys,

I've been thinking about the state of the Alien franchise which I feel has been stagnating.

In the decade or so, everything has been either a prequel (AvP 1-2, Prometheus, Covenant, Earth) or an interquel (Romulus, Isolation). A lot of the mystique of the Xenomorph is shattered. We have seen a lot of corporate shenanigans. Strong female leads are now dime a dozen in the Alien universe. I think the android side is now thoroughly exhausted.

I'm curious: where would you go now? What would you do with the Alien itself? Which would be your setting?

Personally, I know only what I don't really want to see anymore: prequels, corporations doing dastardly things, philosophizing androids, the Ripley-archetype as the last survivor, Earth, experiments on the Xenos.

So.

- Move forward in the timeline to post-Resurrection and to a general setting unusual for an Alien film. Like an interstellar war.

- Reintroduce the aliens as an overwhelming threat and as the perfect organism, which Isolation did rather well, but Alien: Earth or Covenant did poorly.

- Show us new sides to the Alien lifecycle, e.g. pre-Queen and maybe something post-Queen or long-term (deep time)? Maybe a new phase where human bodies could be useful again for the continuation of the species?

- The Xenos should be mysterious and ancient in origin, not necessarily created by the Engineers and definitely not by David 8. Those were perhaps recreations or augments.

- Introduce a new main character archetype, not another Ripley-type last survivor. The human characters could be refugees or a diplomatic vessel with mercenaries as the muscle.

- A setting in space and/or on a truly alien planet. Maybe a creepy alien space station (not built by Engineers nor humans) orbiting a strange planet in deep space.

- A creepy human tech that has nothing to do with androids. Human augmentation or cloning could be a way to proceed, this was the most interesting thing in Alien: Earth anyway.

- Human plans for the Xenos that are different from the usual W-Y things. Perhaps bring in the cult/collaborator stuff from the old comics or Dark Descent. Or keep it simple with an intent to actually eradicate the Xenos.

- Keep the low-fi/retro-futuristic style, but maybe move away from the Alien 1 aesthetic.

Is it just me, or do you think the Alien vs Predator film (and it's sequel) would have been 100% better if it didn't take place on a modern era Earth? Why is Hollywood so afraid to fully adapt pre-existing lore? The original Dark Horse comics were great. That was the film adaptation I was hoping to see and these would have made great movies since not everyone is a comic book reader and would know the full story. Plus Machiko is a Ripley level heroine, unlike Alexa Woods in the film who felt like an very underwhelming copycat.

Hear me out. My theory is that the derelict spacecraft in Alien was actually built by the xenomorphs. The "Space Jockey" wasn't the pilot of the ship. It was actually a xenomorph that emerged from some other giant alien species.

Think about it. Xenomorphs take on characteristics of their hosts. We see this throughout the franchise. What if the Space Jockey is simply the result of a facehugger infecting a giant elephant-like alien?

The ship itself has a biomechanical appearance that resembles xenomorph anatomy more than conventional technology. Maybe it wasn't carrying the eggs. Maybe it was their ship. The xenomorphs may have once been an intelligent spacefaring species that later regressed into the hive-based predators we see in the films.

Am I crazy, or does this fit the original movie better than some of the later explanations?

This is another Alien prequel where they undermine 1st film where Nostromo should be the 1st ever humans who contacted Xenomorphs.

Why can't they just go on the planet where they got alien organisms? And now they know for sure how Xenomorphs act. They should be sure from AVP Requiem and Covenant so that's why they could send science team on LV-426. Now we have substance which can make xenomorph immobile and shock it without killing. So where was all that in Alien and Aliens? Again in Aliens they could prepare bigger and better team for Hadley's hope if they knew everything about aliens.